Would you call Opeth a mainstream band?
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I never for a second thought they were mainstream & i don't think they will ever go mainstream. I just wanted everyone elses opinions.
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Protected Witness
Magickal Theatre 33
Would you mind finding that?KennonKun said:
I don't remember that, and I find it hard to believe.
Reign in Acai
Of Elephant and Man
Mr. Niel said:
It's called being humble. He also doesn't consider himself a good lyricist. Thank God it's us the fans who say how good he is! Ahahaha. If it was up to mikael he'd be playing in coffeehouses.
Nico
Onward!
I think people's interperetations of 'mainstream' is being a bit clouded. Opeth are quite popular as far as the 'extreme metal' genre is concerned, but you certainly wont find many people outside of that listening spectrum getting into them. They certainly arent obscure, everyone who listens to decent metal knows of them.
dorian gray
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Good stuff. Considering music is probably the most subjective human experience ever, I would think it would be up to the band to declare themselves mainstream or whatever they want. It's so difficult to say whether this band sold out or that band sold out. What parameters are involved and how can they apply, consistently, across the board? Impossible. I agree though on the *feeling* that some bands have "sold out" but my feeling doesn't make it so unless the band says, "yeah, we sold out. thanks for buying our shit."
Back to the question: I would doubt that Opeth consider themselves mainstream. We'd have to ask them. I also don't *personally* think they are mainstream. When I told my wife, who is constantly exposed to "mainstream" crap that I've never even heard of, I was going to see Opeth in concert, she asked me if I would be the only one there. Her jibe meant, to me, that Opeth is obviously not a mainstream band. I simply don't think the majority of music-listeners want to hear death metal.
I would guess that all of us here could compile a dynamic list of mainstreamness. At the top would be "acts" like Britney, Christina, Outkast, Etc. and near the bottom, with a low mainstream quotient would be Opeth, Rotting Christ, Etc. followed by garage bands no one can possible know. I think the middle is where it would get kinda gray.
ShroudofDusk has a good point too.....
Back to the question: I would doubt that Opeth consider themselves mainstream. We'd have to ask them. I also don't *personally* think they are mainstream. When I told my wife, who is constantly exposed to "mainstream" crap that I've never even heard of, I was going to see Opeth in concert, she asked me if I would be the only one there. Her jibe meant, to me, that Opeth is obviously not a mainstream band. I simply don't think the majority of music-listeners want to hear death metal.
I would guess that all of us here could compile a dynamic list of mainstreamness. At the top would be "acts" like Britney, Christina, Outkast, Etc. and near the bottom, with a low mainstream quotient would be Opeth, Rotting Christ, Etc. followed by garage bands no one can possible know. I think the middle is where it would get kinda gray.
ShroudofDusk has a good point too.....
Humility and self-assurance are not mutually exclusive. I guarantee you that he know's he's the shit compared to most nu-metal guitarists. He likes to show humility with sarcasm.AllWithinMyMonster said:It's called being humble. He also doesn't consider himself a good lyricist. Thank God it's us the fans who say how good he is! Ahahaha. If it was up to mikael he'd be playing in coffeehouses.
Miller High Death
Forest Metal
I haven't read through all of these replies, but I'll put my 2 cents in this debate. Opeth is mainstream in the sense that they are probably the most well known underground metal band. This "main stream idea" only applies to underground metal fans because nobody else knows or cares anything about Opeth. Metal fans who like to tag bands as mainstream, ussually are super critical of any band getting attention and drawing in more fans. These "true metal fans" really like these bands to be their own thing so, for instance with Opeth, they are going to be pissed off that there really isn't anyone to introduce them to because just about every metal fan already is a fan already or knows of them. They just can't show off anymore, real bummer.
GreatPhoenix
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Oh, I wouldn't know, I don't lower myself to watch such pap.estimate said:
When I was younger my ex-step-dad deleted MTV from our list of stations so I wouldn't watch that crap, but my mom put it back for me.
Now I've deleted it from my own list of stations, kind of ironic.
Anyway, they don't appear on TRL so no, they're not mainstream.
AbsentFriend
Hail to the King
No they're not well known (out of the metal scene), no they are not mainstream.
Not even all metalheads know Opeth. At least not in Holland, even though their fanbase is rather large (for an underground band).
Well known/ mainstream metal/hardrock bands are; Metallica, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Slayer, Cradle of Filth, Slipknot, Korn, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, etc. Allthough not all of them are metal, but these bands are what I call mainstream. Like when they enter an album-chart in the top twenty they can be called mainstream. Opeth is DEFINATELY not mainstream.
Not even all metalheads know Opeth. At least not in Holland, even though their fanbase is rather large (for an underground band).
Well known/ mainstream metal/hardrock bands are; Metallica, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Slayer, Cradle of Filth, Slipknot, Korn, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, etc. Allthough not all of them are metal, but these bands are what I call mainstream. Like when they enter an album-chart in the top twenty they can be called mainstream. Opeth is DEFINATELY not mainstream.
TheFourthHorseman
In The Twilight World
Mayh said:
While that's true, I fail to see why you're saying that to Phoenix when he says that MTV (or Headbanger's Ball (or Windowpane)) is "pap."
Kinda funny undertone in your post that I'm sure you didn't think of.
The Black Canvas
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I find no relations between In Flames and Korn... Opeth are definatley not a mainstream band. They say they arnt in the dvd but thats not why i say they arnt. There not mainstream.
Demoke
This is the Almighty:
1) Opeth are not mainstream.
2) You can "feel" when a band becomes mainstream.
3) The way I "feel" it is by means of my cousin: if she knows the band, then it is mainstream; if she doesn't, then it is not. She doesn't know Opeth. She does know Metallica, Eminem, Nickelback, In Flames, Within Temptation, Alanis Morissette, Nirvana, Enrique Iglesias and his father, and other bullshit. ;-)
2) You can "feel" when a band becomes mainstream.
3) The way I "feel" it is by means of my cousin: if she knows the band, then it is mainstream; if she doesn't, then it is not. She doesn't know Opeth. She does know Metallica, Eminem, Nickelback, In Flames, Within Temptation, Alanis Morissette, Nirvana, Enrique Iglesias and his father, and other bullshit. ;-)
In the cold winds of nowhere
OPETH!!!
i know only 2 other Opeth fans in my town
Opeth are not mainstream i never saw another person with a Opeth shirt...
Opeth are not mainstream
i never saw another person with a Opeth shirt...
KielbasaSausage
YARRRRG
pretty much everyone knows who led zepplin and black sabbath is. are they sellouts as well? mozart and beethoven too...
Scythes of Vengeance
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Opeth are definitely getting more popular. Probably because they've appeared on MTV2's Head Banger's Ball.
Nico
Onward!
AbsentFriend said:
I disagree. Take a look at this:
full-strength.com said:
Blood Duster and Lynchmada are definitly NOT mainstream. Blood Duster play extreme death/grind, and Lynchmada play melodic death metal. But here in Aus, they're popular for doing something different, and something original.
Demoke
This is the Almighty:
My cousin doesn't know black sabbath and led zeppelin. Mozart and Beethoven didn't deal with bloody record companies to sell.
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