@nad: you suicidal? never woulda guessed
@awmm/1lb/whatever: i used to think exactly like you, a point which my girlfriend kindly reminded me of just now as we were reading this thread. i don't really hold it against you, as i remember why i thought that, but in the end, but for what its worth, yours is a dismissive, narrowminded way of looking at things, and it presupposes depressiotn and suicide as weaknesses. they're weaknesses in that they increase your likelihood of premature demise. same with smoking, drinking excessively and all that shit. these things develop for a variety of reasons that range from the mind of the person who commits suicide to their environment, interaction with family/friends/etc, failure of long or short term goals, and a whole pile of individual priorities and stuff. this, to me, means it is impossible to pigeonhole everyone who's ever commited suicide into this group of "useless" people.
i didn't make this thread 'cause i wanted compassion or sympathy. i didn't know this guy very well, and we didn't get along hardly at all. also, i respect an individual's decision to kill themselves, as if i was ever in a situation where i didn't want to live anymore, i can't say i woudn't do it. i still believe it to be a pretty selfish and generally not nice thing to do, if you know what i mean.
uh.. that was long. i don't even know if i make sense. hope it did. i know it's unlikely that i'll convince anyone, and that you guys are entitled to your opinions, but i seriously hope you give it some thought. if you live the rest of your life with such a jaded way of looking at things. if it ever happens to someone who matters to you, we'll see if your opinion changes. sometimes it takes something like that to see something from a more sensitive (in a general sense, meaning in tune with the needs/issues of others) perspective.