Baletempest said:
But thats not what he said he ment... even tough its excatly what he said, I was adressing his second post. In any case, you all vastly overestimate how much power lables have over bands... or for that matter fans. Metalica are still on EMI even though their last 3 albums haven't sold as meny copies between them as The Black Album did and they're still making shitty radio-rock. Therion hardly got dropped after Deiggal failed to shift as many copies as Viovon, The Gathering didn't get dropped after How To Measuer a Planet? even though it sold very badly by contrast to Mandylion and Nighttime Birds... Jeez even if Bloodbath were dropped alltogether because of poor sales then they'd still get picked up by someone else and aside from threatening to drop a band what can a lable do? What can fans do other than not buy an album? Nothing. You have no power so stop deluding yourself that you do, radio friendly lables might be swayed if 1/4 of a million people don't buy an album but when you're not expecting to shift more than 5 figures worth of an album sales become all that more obselete, so long as you amke the costs back... and since that usually only requires about 1000 odd people to buy an album I really doubt that any of you can possibly organise (what Im guessing) around 95% of Bloodbath's fanbase to boycott them.
As far as I'm concerned anyone who signes any such petition is far too concerned with whose in the band and not what they sound like... pousers.
Metallica is still on EMI and allowed to do whatever the hell they want because they STILL sell albums in vast numbers throughout their entire discography, their first five at least are certified platinum, and they still sell out STADIUMS.
Call us posers if you want, but 1/3 of Nightmares Made Flesh was penned by Dan Swano. Considering that, it is a big concern of 'who's in the band' because songwriting will take a major hit. I loved Dan's tracks on NMF, and I love his general style and sound in Bloodbath. Now with him gone, that style is now gone from Bloodbath. Not to say that Anders and Jonas don't have some fucking brutal shit [because they do], but all I am pointing out is that songs like 'Eaten' and 'Brave New Hell' show a signature sound of Dans that fit so well within the albums.
So if showing concern for band politics make us posers, then I guess that's what I am. Sorry for loving the music I listen to.
You can't compare the economics of a band like Metallica to a band like Bloodbath simply because Metallica is more marketable and brings in bigger profits. The members are millionaires from not only album sales, but clothing, ornaments, action figures, concert tickets, endorsements, and any other shit they sell with their logo on it. Bloodbath on the other hand, let's see... All merch helps support the band, they have a grand total of ONE official endorsement, and last I checked, Dan still had a day job.
You see, it's not about what kind of music sounds appealing to just you. It's about what is appealing to the general population. I for one think that Metallica started producing garbage after their fourth album, yet that doesn't stop the general public from selling out football stadiums to see them play.
With a band like bloodbath, the fanbase is, sadly, a fraction of what Metallica's is, and therefore the economics and politics of the band are more intimate, and with a more intimate fanbase comes more of a voice.
If you're in a local band and you have about 12 people in your fanbase, and they say 'this sucks and it's really affecting your sound' you're going to probably take that into consideration, because if you don't, you might LOSE those fans and get kicked out of the music hall.
We are the consumers, and if we don't like a product, we won't buy it. If the majority of a target audience does not buy a product, they will either drop the product or MODIFY IT.
Hell, do you know how many people wanted Mike on stage at Wacken 05?
Guess who fronted Bloodbath at Wacken....
so everyone who cheered at Mike's return is suddenly a poser by your logic?
Pathetic.
