Black Metal.

[crimsonfloyd]

So I can't call the government trash by that logic, because its also done some good things?

Most people are being hyperbolic when they call the government trash.

Their anti-Muslim extremist black list is especially ridiculous.
Maajid Nawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali are extremist who should belong on a list? Get the fuck out of here.

I'm not endorsing every evaluation they make, but your cherry picking isn't surprising. You've shown yourself to have a massive affective filter when it comes to racism.

 

[CiG]

I was being hyperbolic too, what would be the alternative? That I think they're literal trash?

I really don't care about what you have to say about racism if anything you've said about it in the past is representative of how you still think about the subject. Just another progressive white guilt leftist to me.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

I was being hyperbolic too, what would be the alternative? That I think they're literal trash?

I really don't care about what you have to say about racism if anything you've said about it in the past is representative of how you still think about the subject. Just another progressive white guilt leftist to me.

You've shown a lack of ability to analyze information or look at facts when the topic of race comes up, which is why I normally don't even engage in conversations about politics with you anymore. It's a waste of time.

Beyond that, this is the black metal thread, not the politics thread, so let's not derail it.

 

[J.]

Beyond that, this is the black metal thread, not the politics thread, so let's not derail it.

Agreed. Now lets go listen to White Wolves of Wotan by Graveland

 

[Krow]

Agreed. Now lets go listen to White Wolves of Wotan by Graveland

I've got a bunch of Graveland coming my way actually.

Thousand Swords
Following the Voice Of Blood
Immortal Pride
Dawn of Iron Blades
Fire Chariot of Destruction
Pamięć i przeznaczenie

I'm going to have to chill out on buying shit for a while.

 

[J.]

I've got a bunch of Graveland coming my way actually.

Thousand Swords
Following the Voice Of Blood
Immortal Pride
Dawn of Iron Blades
Fire Chariot of Destruction
Pamięć i przeznaczenie

I'm going to have to chill out on buying shit for a while.

A fantastic haul. My 3 favorite Graveland releases in there. Many of those don't reveal their majesty immediately. Give em time

 

[CiG]

You've shown a lack of ability to analyze information or look at facts when the topic of race comes up, which is why I normally don't even engage in conversations about politics with you anymore. It's a waste of time.

You don't engage with me because you're a racist.

 

[Draehl]

Was randomly watching some "Top X Albums of 2015" videos and couldn't help but realize/remember how great of a year 2015 was for BM overall, but especially atmospheric leaning stuff. Kind of puts the subgenre to shame looking at it in the mirror.

Akhlys
Hæthen
Macabre Omen
Drowning the Light
Batushka
Misþyrming
Havukruunu
Mgla
Obsequiae

Damn!

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Really enjoying Skaphe. Dingy psychedelic black metal.

 

[CiG]

So these guys released a demo this year, still making great true north black metal with a cold sound, but this might as well be considered a new album it's fucking fantastic and full in its length.

 

[PrincessHades]

I saw my post and thought "I swear I said that last weekend". Turns out it was earlier than that. Strange.

Horna are consistent, but mediocre. One of the safest black metal bands in existence.

I understand where you are coming from. Many of their songs use that "safe" emo sounding chord progression (shared by Satanic Warmaster) that sounds both good and bad at the same time. They have some fucking awesome songs at the same time. My favorites are Oi Kallis Kotimaa and Piina.

I might add that the Horna fanbase is a horde of gothic dumbassery.

 

[PrincessHades]

I've got a bunch of Graveland coming my way actually.

Thousand Swords
Following the Voice Of Blood
Immortal Pride
Dawn of Iron Blades
Fire Chariot of Destruction
Pamięć i przeznaczenie

I'm going to have to chill out on buying shit for a while.

Thousand Swords has a few good tracks but overall, it is mundane and overrated. I'm not sure about the others. I prefer Absurd to Graveland, though. You must give Totenlieder a listen.

 

[PrincessHades]

So these guys released a demo this year, still making great true north black metal with a cold sound, but this might as well be considered a new album it's fucking fantastic and full in its length.

That is some of the best new black metal I've heard...

 

[CiG]

That is some of the best new black metal I've heard...

So I did a bit of research and it is considered a demo (technically a rehearsal) because it's either partially or totally them recording old back catalog tracks before a big show. So it's re-recorded material.

You might like this album, also from 2017.
I think it's fantastic, black metal from Finland.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Thousand Swords has a few good tracks but overall, it is mundane and overrated. I'm not sure about the others. I prefer Absurd to Graveland, though. You must give Totenlieder a listen.

Thousand Swords is indeed overrated, but it's not even a top 5 Graveland release. If that's all you've heard, you haven't heard the best of Graveland.

Go to the following three:

Carpathian Wolves-their best pure black metal album
Immortal Pride-their best viking metal album
Following the Voice of Blood- a middle point between those two sounds, and their best record overall (though not their most accessible)

 

[Krow]

So these guys released a demo this year, still making great true north black metal with a cold sound, but this might as well be considered a new album it's fucking fantastic and full in its length.

Never bought this one but I have all their others. Guess I should eh on that. Fantastic band.

 

[PrincessHades]

Thousand Swords is indeed overrated, but it's not even a top 5 Graveland release. If that's all you've heard, you haven't heard the best of Graveland.

Go to the following three:

Carpathian Wolves-their best pure black metal album
Immortal Pride-their best viking metal album
Following the Voice of Blood- a middle point between those two sounds, and their best record overall (though not their most accessible)

I really like The Glare of Burning Churches, The Celtic Winter, and Carpathian Wolves. The only great songs off of Thousand Swords are The Blood of Christians on my Sword and Black Metal War.

 

[no country for old wainds]

exactly the kind of opinion i'd expect from a guy with defective balls

 

[Phylactery]

Thousand Swords seems to be underrated if anything. I see quite a few opinions similar to Crimsonfloyd's and then some who think it's utter shit. Definitely the most innovative Graveland release and features some of the best songwriting of their career.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Thousand Swords seems to be underrated if anything. I see quite a few opinions similar to Crimsonfloyd's and then some who think it's utter shit. Definitely the most innovative Graveland release and features some of the best songwriting of their career.

WHOA! I never came close to saying it's "utter shit." It's a B+ album. I actually even agree it's the most innovative Graveland record. However, the songwriting and production are inferior to Following the Voice of Blood, which basically takes the ideas laid out on Thousand Swords and refine them.