Black Metal.
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Srontgorrth
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All I remember from Hecate Enthroned is that hilarious music video they have. Is the album any good? And how much was it?
Einherjar86
Active Member
It was four bucks.
It's decent melodic black metal, with quite a bit of death metal influence (the guitar tone strikes me as more death metal than black metal; kind of similar to the aesthetic Aeternus went for). Also, the symphonic elements are pretty prominent, but not ridiculous.
Never seen their music video, so I can't comment.
It's decent melodic black metal, with quite a bit of death metal influence (the guitar tone strikes me as more death metal than black metal; kind of similar to the aesthetic Aeternus went for). Also, the symphonic elements are pretty prominent, but not ridiculous.
Never seen their music video, so I can't comment.
Haven't seen the video? Man you must be deprived. So fucking gr1m.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDYHZMYMOSs&feature=related[/ame]
That's a classic! It's been a while since I saw it.
But hey, give them a break, the Brits hardly had a black metal scene in the 90s! When it didn't work out for Jon in Cradle of Filth, he set out to put the UK on the map, borrowing Dani Filth's vocal chords, CoF's musical ideas, and Immortal's grimmbitten touch for their video.
Still, it's a great EP and for $4, that's a steal!
Well, i heard their new album too, and i was pretty impressed. Indeed, good black metal. Though, i haven't heard anything from this band except for the new one.
Bitencourt29
Member
Yeah, I'll try their other albums, No God No Satan sounds damn good. I'll spin it a few more times before saying it's awesome but so far I'm also impressed.
Thoth-Amon
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that video is gold. sounds like a CoF demo
LuminousAether
My name is Distance
You misunderstand. There's been some kind of historical revisionist movement to describe all music based on long, somewhat ambient and atmospheric instrumental passages as "post" be it hardcore, black metal, whatever. It's actually becoming a far more limited style. Whereas post simply meant any black metal band that experimented beyond the genre, while retaining a black metal spirit, now it means any black metal band imitating post rock, which is fairly offensive.
LuminousAether
My name is Distance
I specifically mentioned the late 90s so you should immediately infer that I was talking about The Linear Scaffold and Neonism, which are both most definitely black metal albums in every way.
Einherjar86
Active Member
But "post black metal" isn't a temporal movement. It's a specific sound. Genres are defined by their musical qualities. Post black metal as a movement that immediately followed second wave black metal carries no distinctive qualifications.
LuminousAether
My name is Distance
No, post black metal never referred to a specific sound. Not even close. 666 International sounded nothing like La Masquerade Infernale which sounded nothing like Hail Horror Hail.
Einherjar86
Active Member
LuminousAether
My name is Distance
Actually they all are, which is my point. You can't say a new style of music is suddenly a more valid use of the genre tag, particularly when the genre tag in question has an obvious meaning. Which is, of course, post meaning "after" or "beyond." It doesn't make sense to call atmospheric black metal "post black metal" and completely deny that there are many other forms of post black metal that are equally as valid. Post is a nebulous term without any concrete musical definition.
Krow
Garbage Connoisseur
Hey guys lets argue about a subgenre within a subgenre of metal.
Post Black Metal at this point in time means black metal hybridized with Post Rock. Post Rock has a very distinct sound, imo. It's not some creation in the aftermath of black metal or something, it's just the only thing you could really call the genre.
A Goddamn / and the word rock fixes this anyway.
Post Rock/Black Metal
solved.
Post Black Metal at this point in time means black metal hybridized with Post Rock. Post Rock has a very distinct sound, imo. It's not some creation in the aftermath of black metal or something, it's just the only thing you could really call the genre.
A Goddamn / and the word rock fixes this anyway.
Post Rock/Black Metal
solved.
An EP is an EP, an album is an album. It's really not that difficult to understand.
unknown
fuck ftagn
The fact that Chaining the Katechon is one song complicates the issue. Don't get me wrong, it's by far one of DsO's best songs, but I don't think I can't say it's their best album
and in regards to the post metal issue, if it weren't for bands like DHG, Arcturus, Ved Buens Ende, Fleurety, etc. . . the bands experimenting with the black metal sound, going beyond black metal and integrating other elements, the bands we call "post metal" these days might have a harder sell. Post Black Metal is a very large branching term, imo. It encompassed bands such as DHG and Arcturus (which sound nothing alike) and Wolves in the Throne Room and Altar of Plagues. Farsot often gets lumped in with "Post Black Metal" and there are no post-rock elements in their music at all
and in regards to the post metal issue, if it weren't for bands like DHG, Arcturus, Ved Buens Ende, Fleurety, etc. . . the bands experimenting with the black metal sound, going beyond black metal and integrating other elements, the bands we call "post metal" these days might have a harder sell. Post Black Metal is a very large branching term, imo. It encompassed bands such as DHG and Arcturus (which sound nothing alike) and Wolves in the Throne Room and Altar of Plagues. Farsot often gets lumped in with "Post Black Metal" and there are no post-rock elements in their music at all
Einherjar86
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The problem with "post black metal" is that, if we recognize it as a chronological term then it can refer to any black metal (and, in fact, any metal) released after second wave Norwegian. It's easier if used as a term that describes a certain aesthetic quality. Arcturus and Solefald don't need the label "post black metal" applied to them. It's too confusing.
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