GMD Votes: Black Metal prelims + discussion

[crimsonfloyd]

More than half aren't

The only track that even has a case for being black metal is I Am The Wooden Doors

I love the album and it is better than 99% of any metal for me, but doesn't have a place here (honestly no Agalloch does outside of Faustian Echoes and the last two albums - which are trash anyways)

You Were but a Ghost in My Arms is clearly black metal and "In the Shadow of Our Pale Companion " and "...and the Great Cold Death of the Earth" both have black metal elements.

You're so wrong on Marrow of the Spirit. A total masterpiece from start to finish. And "packing it in"? Give me a fucking break. There's so much detail and originality on that album. Serpent and the Sphere is definitely a big step down, but is still solid.

There is absolutely no reason to exclude EPs/demos. Some bands best releases are demo work - Emperor's Wrath of the Tyrant for example.

What a terrible opinion. Wrath of the Tryant isn't even worth listening to let alone superior to a masterpiece like Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk.

I'd just throw in all Agalloch as black metal. Why the fuck not.

The Mantle is one of the greatest albums of the past 20 years but only about 1/3 of the LP consists of black metal. It would be at or near the top of the list because of quality, but does it really make sense to call it one of the greatest black metal albums of all time when it's not really black metal?

 

[crimsonfloyd]

What is the general thought regarding including first wave BM?

Most of it isn't black metal. It's thrash. Under the Sign of the Black Mark is the first true black metal album.

 

[Tonka Time]

1. Mysticum - In The Streams of Inferno
2. Katharsis - VVorld VVithout End
3. Funeral Mist - Salvation
4. Aborym - With No Human Intervention
5. Inquisition - Ominous Doctrines of the Perpetual Mystical Macrocosm
6. Absu - Tara
7. Arkhon Infaustus - Orthodoxyn
8. Sigrblot - Blodsband (Blood Religion Manifest)
9. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God
10. Diapsiquir - Virus S.T.N.
11. Deathspell Omega - Fas
12. Craft - Fuck The Universe
13. Abigor - Nachthymnen (From The Twilight Kingdom)
14. Hell Militia - Last Station On The Road To Death
15. Blacklodge - SolarKult
16. The Axis Of Perdition - The Icheumon Method
17. Neo Inferno 262 - The Next Vessel
18. Svartidauði - Flesh Cathedral
19. Orcustus - Orcustus
20. Antaeus - De Principii Evangelikum
21. Ascension - Consolamentum
22. Behexen - My Soul For His Glory
23. Beherit - Drawing Down The Moon
24. Prosanctus Inferi - Pandemonic Ululations of Vesperic Palpitation
25. Skitliv - Skandinavisk Misantropi

 

[crimsonfloyd]

1. Burzum- Hvis lyset tar oss
2. Emperor- Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
3. Darkthrone- Transilvanian Hunger
4. Deathspell Omega- Peracletus
5. Deathspell Omega- Fas- Ite, maledicti, in ingnem aeternum
6. Darkthrone- A Blaze in the Northern Sky
7. Burzum- Filosofem
8. Velvet Cacoon- Genevieve
9. Mutiilation- Remains of a Ruined, Dead, Cursed Soul
10. Immortal- Pure Holocaust
11. Enslaved- Vikingligr veldi
12. Dissection- Storm of the Light's Bane
13. Mutiilation- Vampires of Black Imperial Blood
14. Burzum- Det som engag var
15. Nargaroth- Herbstleyd
16. Nagelfar- Strontgorrth
17. Graveland- Following the Voice of Blood
18. Darkthrone- Under a Funeral Moon
19. Gontyna Kry- Welowie
20. Ildjarn- Strength and Anger
21. Bathory- Under the Sign of a Black Mark
22. Drudkh- Autumn Aurora
23. Agalloch- Marrow of the Spirit
24. Ohtar- When I Cut the Throat
25. Mortiferia- Vastiia Tenebrd Mortifera

 

[Mort Divine]

I think my problem with Marrow is that there are tracks that legitimately are great, but they're sandwiched between utter shit. It would have been a great EP if it consisted only of the intro, Black Lake, and To Drown.

Will post my list later on after work.

liking the variety of albums chosen so far even if I disagree with several.

 

[The Butt]

I think my problem with Marrow is that there are tracks that legitimately are great, but they're sandwiched between utter shit. It would have been a great EP if it consisted only of the intro, Black Lake, and To Drown.

Will post my list later on after work.

liking the variety of albums chosen so far even if I disagree with several.

But Into The Painted Gray is the peak of the album. Its a wonderful album, start to finish, and again I believe it is their best to date; but that song is the standout.

 

[Mort Divine]

But Into The Painted Gray is the peak of the album. Its a wonderful album, start to finish, and again I believe it is their best to date; but that song is the standout.

Feel free to think that, but in classic The Butt fashion, your opinion is bad and wrong. It sounds like a rejected track from Ashes made to sound more 'metal'

 

[The Butt]

You are deluded. Sorry.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Marrow is masterful from start to finish, but Mort has always had terrible taste in black metal. I wouldn't expect him to get it.

 

[Draehl]

Shadow of our Pale Companion wins easily.

 

[The Butt]

Marrow is masterful from start to finish, but Mort has always had terrible taste in black metal. I wouldn't expect him to get it.

*high five*

 

[Mort Divine]

1. Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
2. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun
3. Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky
4. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi
5. Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
6. Agalloch - Pale Folklore
7. Necromantia - Scarlet Evil Witching Black
8. Beherit - Drawing Down the Moon
9. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
10. Sarcófago - INRI
11. Katharsis - VVorld VVithout End
12. Dawn - Naer Solen Gar Niper For Evogher
13. Master's Hammer - Ritual
14. Negura Bunget - OM
15. Varathron - His Majesty at the Swamp
16. Samael - Worship Him
17. Inquisition - Nefarious Dismal Orations
18. Primordial - Spirit the Earth Aflame
19. Immortal - Pure Holocaust
20. Summoning - Dol Guldur
21. Aeternus - ...and So the Night Became
22. Morrigan - Plague, Waste and Death
23. Havohej - Dethrone the Son of God
24. Sorcier Des Glaces - Snowland
25. Nox Intempesta - Damnanus - Dominum

Order isn't really concrete outside of the first two

EDIT:

Sorry that I have higher standards for a band like Agalloch who once produced interesting forward thinking music

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

A few i forgot about ...

Negurna Bunget - OM
Arckanum - ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ
Ulver - Bergtatt
Ulver - Nattens madrigal
Satyricon - The Shadowthrone
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk

And fuck it, ill include Belus too.

 

[Slayed Necros]

but Mort has always had terrible taste in black metal.

Mate, his list wipes the floor with almost every other list posted. Keep arguing about Agalloch though.

 

[The Butt]

"higher standards".

OK there.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

1. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
2. Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
3. Aeternus - ...and So the Night Became
4. Master's Hammer - Ritual
5. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun
6. Absurd - Facta Loquuntur
7. Rotting Christ - Thy Mighty Contract
8. Summoning - Dol Guldur
9. Sarcofago - I.N.R.I.
10. Mortuary Drape - Secret Sudaria
11. Gorgoroth - Pentagram
12. Necromantia - Scarlet Evil Witching Black
13. Varathron - His Majesty at the Swamp
14. Moonblood - Taste Our German Steel!
15. Beherit - Drawing Down the Moon
16. Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
17. Thou Art Lord - Eosoferos
18. Graveland - Thousand Swords
19. Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
20. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi
21. Immortal - Pure Holocaust
22. Venom - Black Metal
23. Ulver - Bergtatt
24. Ildjarn - Strength and Anger
25. Falkenbach - ...En Their Medh Riki Fara...

I could've ordered this a little better but it's what I have for now.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Dissection > Sacramentum ... and i love both bands.

 

[The Butt]

Dissection > Sacramentum

 

[J.]

Dawn>dissection>sacramentum

I adore all three

 

[The Butt]

Dawn is my favorite too; I never really got into Dissection.