Meshuggah. Simple like or dislike poll
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I like 80s thrash metal and I like Meshuggah also.
There is nothing "tough guy" about Meshuggah or their music hahah, and I'd say it's a pretty far call from nu-metal, but it's not really at all thrashy in my opinion either (save for the odd example).
There is nothing "tough guy" about Meshuggah or their music hahah, and I'd say it's a pretty far call from nu-metal, but it's not really at all thrashy in my opinion either (save for the odd example).
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I like 80s thrash AND I like Meshuggah. Then again, I'm not a goddamn faggot, either.
LOL.. Awesome call
I never noticed any similarities Meshuggah has with nu-metal. I just thought they were god awful, boring, and shitty trend starters.
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I don't know why everybody is shitting themselves over the usage of the term nu-metal. I hear a couple riffs here and there from bands like fucking Master, Darkspace, and Gorguts that make me think "this sounds like a nu-metal riff, aesthetically speaking". I listened to the song in question in this thread, and I seriously cannot believe anyone could possibly be so incredulous as to deny the aesthetic similarity in sound between that song and the traditionally recognized "nu-metal riff sound." I'm not a music theory major and have never attempted to appear to be an expert in that field, but I really don't think it's that hard to draw parallels between that and System of a Down or something. That is a statement made 100% free of qualitative judgment, so agreeing or disagreeing with the accuracy of that statement isn't pejorative at all; in other words, HamburgerBoy and others need to get over it. I checked out some other later-era Meshuggah songs and they generally show similar characteristics to this song. I can see very easily why a fan of old school metal styles would not like this at all, and I can see just as easily why anybody, whether they like the band or not, could listen to that song and be reminded of nu-metal on an aesthetic level. I wouldn't describe most of the Meshuggah songs that I've heard as purely metal, either. They sound more like some kind of hybrid, post-metal genre.
what exactly about Meshuggah's music isn't metal? i agree with the nu-metal comparisons (although I agree with HamburgerBoy that 99.9% of the time a comparison to nu-metal on any metal forum is intended to be derogatory), but i'm not entirely sure how they could fall outside the umbrella of metal..
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Yeah i see the similarities!! Meshuggah definately belongs in the same genre as limp bizkit..pfft.
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I seriously cant get over the nu metal comparisons, the only thing that is similar is the riff based structures and low tunings. Meshuggah has so much more going on technically than any nu metal junk.
Comparing meshuggah to nu metal is like comparing bring me the horizon to suffocation.
Comparing meshuggah to nu metal is like comparing bring me the horizon to suffocation.
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Uh, yeah, nobody actually said that Meshuggah plays nu-metal, merely that some of the riffs (actually, many of the riffs), combined with their arrangement and use in the songwriting process, as well as the guitar tone and other factors, resemble traits of nu-metal, aesthetically more than anything else. Obviously Meshuggah is more technical, aggressive, (generally) faster, and nuanced than most nu-metal, at least that I'm aware of, but that doesn't mean it can't bear a resemblance.
That's the problem that I have and the reason that I refrained from a more decisive statement, but it sounds to me that there is more going on in their music than just metal. Metal is more than loud, heavy guitar riffs, otherwise Swans would be metal. [Sidebar: Actually it annoys the hell out of me when people try to compare non-metal bands to metal and cite their 'metalness' as reason to enjoy them. People do this with Swans a lot, but also shit like Dead Can Dance, and especially classical music.] It almost reminds me of a more technical Strapping Young Lad sometimes, so I guess some industrial elements are to be found there. Anyway, I think the same thing of bands like Isis, Kayo Dot, Pain of Salvation, and a ton of other bands as well. It's not like it's a bad thing to not be metal.
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I think it's fair that some people enjoy qualities that other non-metal bands share with a lot of metal. For example, three main reasons I enjoy hardcore is that it's aggressive, it has a lot of energy and shouting gang vocals are used. That's also why I like thrash.
Same could be said about Swans, they have an evil hateful dark atmosphere, which is shared with quite a few metal bands. (although I do find Swans to be more dark and angry then a good majority of metal)
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He didn't even say they could necessarily be classified under nu-metal you fucking dolt. The fact that they use heavy repetitive riff based structures is going to give one the idea that it has at least some similarities to nu-metal. I don't know why you continue to deny this.
I don't care if you consider it poor logic or not, when I listened to that song I got a danceable "jumpdafuckup" vibe within seconds and that structure doesn't change throughout the song. Once again, maybe they can't be considered nu-metal as a specific genre tag but you are deaf if you can't hear similarities. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not people have personal dislike for the band.
I don't care if you consider it poor logic or not, when I listened to that song I got a danceable "jumpdafuckup" vibe within seconds and that structure doesn't change throughout the song. Once again, maybe they can't be considered nu-metal as a specific genre tag but you are deaf if you can't hear similarities. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not people have personal dislike for the band.
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