Next Opeth Album

[hezagenius]

Whatever they come up with, it will be more prog than their other albums. It seems like each release gets more and more proggy, especially with the keyboards. I also think it will be better than Watershed since Fred and Axe will have had more time to gel with the rest of the band. Let's just hope no one leaves the band!

 

[philno]

its gonna be soooooo progressive with really cool 70's sounding keys and really weird riffs!!!!! and the songs will all be directionless with random lyrics about the seasons, love and abandonment !!!! i cant wait and mike will sound more like a popstar

 

[Wander]

holy shit

This saved my day.

 

[daimonion]

Whatever it'll be - it won't be a "They should go back to the style on *insert favourite record*", i'm sure.

Seems like Mike really enjoys the new, freshness sound of Watershed, so it'll probably be somewhat of a continuation on that only with some weirder stuff and at least as varied.

 

[Nasty-Fire]

No death vocals, but heavier music.

Absolute bullshit.

 

[BefriendedUnit]

This saved my day.

Me too, rofl, another excellent Carta's moment

 

[Alteredmindeath]

I just hope we don't need to wait nearly three years for the next one as we did with Watershed. Otherwise I'm just hoping it's another album-sized step forward on the creative path Opeth have paved for themselves.

They should test out the new lineup, be more productive, put out an album in 2 years. With this new version of the band, I think it would be healthy for them to create albums faster. They know what they are doing though, they always seem to dig deep and discover new gold.

 

[philno]

on a serious note, the last two opeth albums (imo) are overly progressive solely for the sake of being so "progressive" that they can't be accused of doing the same album over and over again. i thought that SL and MAYH were both great progressive metal albums because they went where no other metal band went at the time but still retained that metal spirit and unique opeth sound. listening to the new albums, it hardly sounds like opeth (especially some singles that will be left unnamed). at this rate, songs on the next album will be 2 songs put on top of each other. real progressive

 

[Savern]

on a serious note, the last two opeth albums (imo) are overly progressive solely for the sake of being so "progressive" that they can't be accused of doing the same album over and over again. i thought that SL and MAYH were both great progressive metal albums because they went where no other metal band went at the time but still retained that metal spirit and unique opeth sound. listening to the new albums, it hardly sounds like opeth (especially some singles that will be left unnamed). at this rate, songs on the next album will be 2 songs put on top of each other. real progressive

I disagree that the new albums don't sound like Opeth. Heir Apparent, Lotus Eater and Hessian Peel all contain the same stonking riffs, phat growls and beautiful quiet passages we all know and love. I still don't understand lots of people's hatred of GR - I just had a nap while listening to it and it let me really tune into the intricacies of the album (and how gorgeous Isololation Years is) The biggest thing about Opeth is that their sound changes every album - whether its in a direction the fans like or not, its what Mike and the band does... So far I've enjoyed all the sounds they've covered - Watershed was definately showing off more of the 70's prog influences, but going on past performance we could expect a heavily orchestrated prog black metal album!

 

[philno]

let me guess that you've gotten into opeth recently

 

[Savern]

Been a fan or 3 years now. First album was still life, after that I got MAYH, BWP and D1&D2. Then I got orchid and Morningrise, finally got GR a bit after that (about a year after release.) It took me a while to get into them, Deliverance was the first song I ever heard by them and at the time I wasn't into growly death metal at all. Opeth pretty much changed that once a mate bought me Still Life.

Anyway, thats a bit of background. So I haven't been here since Orchid - I can still have opinions Philno.

Edit : obviously my comment about orchestrated black metal was exaggerated. My point is that we don't know what take the band will have on the next album. Peter (although no longer a member obviously) on the Lamentations Doc. "That Opeth always does the opposite of what people expect."

 

[Nasty-Fire]

^ I agree with you, Savern. And don't bother about philno. He just keeps being a whore.

 

[[KOTNO]Narrot]

this is not like a guess what it will be... but i really hope for some ballads. isolations years and den ständiga resan (also burden but it's not really ballad) are so outstandingly great. mikael's growls are top notch but his clean vocals are just so goddamn superb...

 

[Frosties]

on a serious note, the last two opeth albums (imo) are overly progressive solely for the sake of being so "progressive" that they can't be accused of doing the same album over and over again. i thought that SL and MAYH were both great progressive metal albums because they went where no other metal band went at the time but still retained that metal spirit and unique opeth sound. listening to the new albums, it hardly sounds like opeth (especially some singles that will be left unnamed). at this rate, songs on the next album will be 2 songs put on top of each other. real progressive

What I agree on:
Mike seems to be going in a more prog direction, which lots of times is having something different just for the sake of being different and weird. By doing that, I don't feel the emotion that came out of the earlier music. It seems like the music is now aimed at the mind, when it used to be to the heart (soul, whatever). So, while the album sounds great and has a lot of unique ideas, the music doesn't connect like it used to. A lot of it is like "hmmm, thats a nice idea" as opposed "OMG I'M CUMMING!!!!"

What I disagree with:

There is no album I can point to and say "THAT IS OPETHS SOUND!" I have a hard time of doing that with songs! Each album has a different sound and a different mood, therefore a different impact. I would far prefer how Opeth keep on re-discovering themselves on each album, giving me that much more options when listening to the band. I can choose the "early black metal nonsense" with the first couple, the "romantic" stuff in the middle and "intelligent" stuff the end (for now!). I seriously can't think of another band that has that much to offer.

 

[anus slayer ov the dogs]

We can never perdict Mikester.

 

[philno]

What I agree on:
Mike seems to be going in a more prog direction, which lots of times is having something different just for the sake of being different and weird. By doing that, I don't feel the emotion that came out of the earlier music. It seems like the music is now aimed at the mind, when it used to be to the heart (soul, whatever). So, while the album sounds great and has a lot of unique ideas, the music doesn't connect like it used to. A lot of it is like "hmmm, thats a nice idea" as opposed "OMG I'M CUMMING!!!!"

What I disagree with:

There is no album I can point to and say "THAT IS OPETHS SOUND!" I have a hard time of doing that with songs! Each album has a different sound and a different mood, therefore a different impact. I would far prefer how Opeth keep on re-discovering themselves on each album, giving me that much more options when listening to the band. I can choose the "early black metal nonsense" with the first couple, the "romantic" stuff in the middle and "intelligent" stuff the end (for now!). I seriously can't think of another band that has that much to offer.

i have to disagree about the "aim" of opeths new material. whereas you think it's aimed at the mind, i just think it's boring. we knew opeth were progressive before ghost reveries and watershed. there's no need to lace every song with out of place keyboards (this is more in reference to ghost reveries) or odd time signatures JUST for the sake of being progressive. when the music has become so progressive that it gets in your face, that's a detriment. watershed as an album is so random that i fail to detect any atmosphere whatsoever.

i feel that the last two albums are insecure, as if mike is trying to recreate the magic feeling he captured in his earlier albums, but fearing that if he does so he'll be "that guy that keeps on putting out the same album" when that couldn't be further away from the truth. take a look at heir apparent, it's great (and imo the best opeth song since deliverance), and absolutely reminiscent of older opeth songs, but no one has accused it of being a rehashed still life song.

this isn't to say that i hate progressive music either, in fact most of my favorite bands all enjoy some relation to prog; pink floyd, camel, deathspell omega, etc. to prevent certain people from totally misinterpreting my post (the usual), im going to put this in bold: there is no problem with a band changing direction with every album, as long as it is done with taste.

also, Nasty-Fire, are you ever going to shed your ever so fragile fanboy skin?

 

[L0bster]

Would not mind some SW input on the vocals / leadguitars / keys. Would not mind that at all.

 

[Nasty-Fire]

Oh well, philno, if you do not feel any atmosphere in Watershed, other does. Would like to know what you exactly mean by "random". Like, examples. It's easy to say, but show us how random is Watershed. Cursious am I.

Finally, once again, "there's no problem with a band changing direction with every album, as long as it is done (according?) with taste". Is that what you mean? That if a band changes direction, it must be done according to what you like ? What does "with taste" mean.

That's all strange, because I actually think Opeth direction has taste, but you don't. Who's right?

 

[myndcrym370]

I don't think I'd enjoy a total return to any of their previous albums, just because it would be kind of lame to just go back to a sound they had years ago. But, I think one of the things I do miss about Still Life/BWP is the roughness of the production (it wasn't as pristine and clear as GR and Watershed), which I thought kind of gave the music more atmosphere. Also I feel like those two albums had more extra, background "texturing" parts if you will, like the ebow, etc etc. But, all that being said, I really like Watershed alot, I think it's probably my favorite since Blackwater Park.

 

[Frosties]

Finally, once again, "there's no problem with a band changing direction with every album, as long as it is done (according?) with taste". Is that what you mean? That if a band changes direction, it must be done according to what you like ?

Well, duh, obvisouly he prefers that he actually like whatever changes they have.