edit: It turns out, I have more to say! (yeah rare, isn't it?) You say you would feel like you're "compromising" yourself and your integrity if you altared the way you look at all for someone else, and yet women are told to do this all the time. We get special hairstyles, wear make up, whiten our teeth, wear high heels, go on diets, buy expensive clothes that fit us perfectly JUST SO WE CAN LOOK BETTER THAN WE NORMALLY DO! Does that make us fake? Does that mean we are compromising ourselves? Ask yourself this honestly. Would you be happy with a woman who wore no make up, did nothign with her hair, wore the same baggy clothes as you, didn't wear bras that flattered her breasts (or at all!) Would you be happy with that? Or do you think you're eyes would meander to the leggy redhead (who clearly dyes it) with the push up bra and white smile? Yeah, you'll probably say "if my girlfriend is gorgeous and has a great rack without it all, fine" but that's not going to happen babe. Gorgeous women with great racks without any help by makeup or clothing is a very rare thing, and you probably won't find it. So all other women shouldn't try you're saying? We're not being true to ourselves you're saying??
please, explain to me.
And I apologize for again turning this into a 'men vs women" issue, but I know I'm the only one who noticed the hypocrisy in what he said, and since I try to be "true to myself" I am not going to just ignore these things. Even though "being true to myself" to most of you makes me a "bitch".
Sweety that's a great post. Really. Big +1 for that.
From my own POV, I think that doing such things is fine, and lets face it, men, whether they like, or admit, it or not, are heading in their own parallel direction to the characteristics you mention above.
We *are* starting to keep out nails cut short, we are starting to make sure our hair is clean, we are making sure of these kinds of things. It is happening with more and more frequency.
Due to my own reasons, I am unfortunately vain, but I have no problem admitting its because of my own insecurities (of course, this doesn't make it right, but I'm definitely not going to deny it. Acceptance of ones own flaws is the first step towards turning it into a contributor to inner balance). I accept myself more than ever, but at the same time, I really do go out of my way to make sure I am presentable, clean and looking more than decent. I feel more confident in myself if I do. **shrugs**
So I think these kinds of things are okay in that it is okay to be well presented etc. Not trying to blow my own horn, but I think I must be one of the cleanest looking guys in Sydney wearing a metal shirt, but I like that. For me, I like feeling clean, clean shaven, freshly showered etc etc.
Taking care of your appearance and being clean etc, these things for men and women are okay, but there is a limit. Unfortunately with the way things are these days, in terms of fashion etc, the limit is being crossed all the time, to the point where the way you have described it is becoming the norm, and not a line which shouldnt be crossed (I hope I'm making sense).
In summary - I don't mind it if a male takes care of himself etc, or if a woman wears a push up bra etc etc... the important thing is that it MUST be done for the self, not in a way which is mean to use others, or condemn others in some kind of way. If someone is doing it for self confidence, then no, I don't think it's fake because there's not a single living person on this planet who isn't insecure about themselves in some shape way or form.
...I hope I've made sense here...