hey guys, just curious...
what's your protools hd rig setup?
what i/o and pre's do you have, and how are you routing everything?
what's your protools hd rig setup?
what i/o and pre's do you have, and how are you routing everything?
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AdamWathan
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The 192s are configurable with different cards in the back. There's a digital card that supports ADAT that you can have two of for 16 channels or an analog card with 8 line ins I believe, so you would just patch out of the line outs on your preamp and use the 192s converters. I'm no expert but from memory I believe that's correct.
JeffTD
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The CraneSong Spider pre has an ADAT out, so it's handling pres + conversion in one box. Andy uses RME ADI-8's for conversion into his 192's, IIRC.
AdamWathan
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Yes just like your 800R bypasses the a/d in your Fireface but you still need the Fireface. The 192 is the interface between your preamps and your computer, it's required whether you use it's A/D or not.
Well, it's not really required these days depending on what A/D converter you use. Lynx, Apogee, etc have cards you can install in their products that integrate directly with the HD core cards - no 192 needed. The cards from these other companies "trick" HD into actually thinking a 192 is hooked up.
AdamWathan
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Well yeah but either way Joey needs SOMETHING between his preamps and core cards, whether it's a 192, 96 i/o, Lynx Aurora with PT card or an Apogee unit.
im gonna go with the 192, i mean its part of the deal, and i dont know how many countless studios i've seen (making records i aspire to make) using them.
i was just confused on how it all worked back stage.
BLUElightCory
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I use the 192 like so:
Analog In 1-8 - Outboard Pres
Digital In 1-8 - Outboard Pres (via a Focusrite ISA428 AES Out)
Analog Out 1-2 - Main Mix (to Presonus Central Station)
Analog Out 3 - Reamp Out (to Re-Amp Box)
Analog Out 7-8 - Headphone Mix (to Central Station -> Headphone Amp)
Analog In 1-8 - Outboard Pres
Digital In 1-8 - Outboard Pres (via a Focusrite ISA428 AES Out)
Analog Out 1-2 - Main Mix (to Presonus Central Station)
Analog Out 3 - Reamp Out (to Re-Amp Box)
Analog Out 7-8 - Headphone Mix (to Central Station -> Headphone Amp)
greyskull
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Ahem...
Nay.
believe he uses the 192s, but uses the Spider via a Good ol Adat bridge (think its still supported
) plugged into the legacy port of the 192.... could be wrong though.
Lasse Lammert
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Ermz
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Without a doubt I would go a Lynx Aurora with the PT expansion card, directly hooked up to the Core Card. No love for Digidesign interfaces here. The 192 is basically just the middle man. If you cut it out you'll be better off for it down the track.
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seeing as how the aurora Probably isnt icluded in Digis Special offer; that may not happen!
Why the Digi interface hate? the 192 is a GREAT converter.
one of the guys from Apogee was poached to help design it, hence it has a built in soft limit.
I happen to think the 003 is pretty dang decent for the bucks too. granted the mbox isnt amazing, but what do you expect for the money.
The 888 was pretty shoddy, hence the rise of apogee and prism etc, but 192s and even 96s do the job just fine
Things like the Maudio delta 1010 however. JEEEEESUS that converter SUCKS suffers terribly from digiitus
Ermz
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On an unrelated note, I've always wondered how the converter quality in my Multiface fares against other converters in the mid/high tier price ranges. Wondering whether to place the Aurora on the priority list.
If the 192 is included in that 'special offer' of theirs, then that's fine. It's an adequate box and will do the job for you. I tracked the Untruth EP through two of em and didn't have any hassles.
If the 192 is included in that 'special offer' of theirs, then that's fine. It's an adequate box and will do the job for you. I tracked the Untruth EP through two of em and didn't have any hassles.
Lasse Lammert
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the 192 are really good.
I've A/B'd them to the apogee and they really came close....the AD16-x was just a tiny bit better, that's why I got it.
I've A/B'd them to the apogee and they really came close....the AD16-x was just a tiny bit better, that's why I got it.
do you think i'll be downgrading in audio quality from my rme ff800 to the 192?
what if i just use the 192 as the required link between my daw and my pre's, but the a/d is happening on a higher quality converter?
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gabriel g.
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Who do you guys judge the quality of a converter?
I mean there are technical points like:
Headroom
sampling (nyquist and shannon stuff)
Jitter stuff
clock
but how do you choose between all the high-class converters like Lynx, apogee, RME, digi, benchmark for example ?
I mean there are technical points like:
Headroom
sampling (nyquist and shannon stuff)
Jitter stuff
clock
but how do you choose between all the high-class converters like Lynx, apogee, RME, digi, benchmark for example ?
Lasse Lammert
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