Holy fucking shit man... If I even felt like continuing to read that last ignorant post after the ton of verbal insults I never would have. How the fuck did it get turned into a arguement about tobacco and lung cancer ? There is clearly something a miss inside this individuals head even if one could ignore being insulted every two sentences.
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I find it quite interesting that Deron took issue with me indicating that we had a potential flamer on our hands... at least now it is clear. Fortunantly the spew is so off the hook that it creates its own sense of humor enough to simply pass it by. Elsewise I'd be ripping ass right now.
Holy fucking shit... woo hoo... and a yee haw...
Not something I'd normally talk about due to being taken a "bragging" about... as if to condone or influence but my various friends and I, a significantly large group over the years, spred out in different communities, work aquantences, friends of friends, ect, all successful, some very much so have been tokin in moderation for over 35 years... and I dont know nothin... cool
Further it would stand to reason that on a METAl forum or ANY music forum that you would be in the presence of some dope smokers that might just have a clue or two... BUT NOOOOO... just a bunch of clueless dumb bastards... cool
It got turned into an argument about tobacco and lung cancer when you said tobacco doesn't cause cancer, thus I proved you wrong. And how is there something wrong with my head? I'm being logical here, and on topic, obviously you have me confused with yourself.
And boo hoo you got insulted, get over it honestly its nothing to cry or beat yourself over its the internet, if you're going to take every little insult someone says to heart then that's pathetic. Plus its a part of my process, something you may not seem to grasp or understand but that's your problem not mine.
Why must I flame? The same reason others must act stupid, talk about nothing they know about and/or flame me.
Also I did not take you for ignorant just because you're a pot smoker and quite frankly it's your choice to smoke it if you want to. That being said I feel there are far more productive ways to deal with stress... Rather than gradually tareing down your body. (and if you have any doubt of the facts I've told you Cite McGraw Hill Ryerson Biology text) It will eventually decrease your quailty of life and what has it done for your problems other than given you cheap thrills?. So go ahead smoke it... but before you do why not go for a run, write a song, study something outside your field, be productive and live your life.
Is it too difficult for you to just answer the question?
I already showed you that the death rate and homicide rate of a country that has decriminalized weed is actually lower than the same stats in its neighboring countries. You, on the other hand, have shown no evidence whatsoever. You can shoot your mouth off all day long, but it doesn't prove anything if you're speaking from complete ignorance.
Accepting of what truth? I'm the one who's actually showing evidence for what I'm saying. Since you are refusing to do the same, as well as ignoring the evidence I've presented to you, it looks like you're the one who's stubbornly clinging to his misinformed opinions. I believe things because they have a basis in reality, not because I simply want to believe them.
Also, where did you even read that "for a fact it causes schizophrenia", and that this is somehow a huge health concern with weed? Again, you need to actually make some effort to show that you're not just parroting what some DARE officer told you in kindergarten.
Okay, let's see. Believe some random idiot on the Internet or a scientific study that proves him wrong. Hmm, I think I'll go with the study.
I'm just going to stop here, actually. If you're so brainwashed that you would look at the results of scientific studies and say "nuh-uh, dat's not troo" simply because they contradict your fantasy world of irrational beliefs then there is certainly no point in trying to convince you of anything. Have a nice day.
Atleast you still have enough passion to kill without weed, please ignorance? These are straight up FACTS you can get from a standard bio text book. Cannabis in short use makes you euphoric, and relaxed. Possitive effects over all, But (and when I say this I refer in particular to those who are long time users) eventually the THC within Marijuana will dull the Receptor sites of the neurons on your cerebrum making your reation time and thinking power overall greatly less. Go learn something pot head.
Well I understand now. Rough Divide lives in Canada, where the government babysits the people, so he doesn't know how to think for himself.
People who think this US health care bill is anything but control and prfit for big pharma (now there is the poison that needs to be outlawed) are idiots, but of course, you aren't even from the US, so what would you know about it other than what you hear on TV?
Wow not only are you an ass, you're a stereotypical idiot, you know nothing of the Canadian government obviously if you make false assumptions like that. The government doesn't babysit anyone that's a futile statement, I know how to think for myself I'm doing it now aren't I? Also how are people idiots for thinking rationally? you don't say at all why or how therefore your statement is flawed. And since when do someone have to be from the US to know anything about it? I mean wow if you honestly think that then you really are an idiot. There's a course called History that you have to take in high school and eventually you have to take World History although you probably wouldn't know that would you? considering you know nothing about Canada it seems. That's the thing about you ignorant Americans, you rely on your blind stereotypes.
Just as a follow-up, because I only now read your other post:
And this proves what? The very sentence you bolded mentions two studies that reach different conclusions about whether cannabis causes cancer, and it doesn't even take into account the difference between smoking it and, say, vaporizing it. For all we know, you could just use a vaporizer to ingest the drug and the entire question of cancer would disappear.
So? For all we know, that "increased risk" could mean 1 out of every million people who smokes it will develop schizophrenia. There's a health risk in any number of recreational activities, from playing video games (epilepsy, obesity) to baseball (concussions, broken bones, death) to dancing (sprains, concussions, heat exhaustion, dehydration). A simple risk is no reason to ban something unless it's a serious risk. Otherwise we'd be making all the aforementioned activities illegal.
It proves that it isn't fully ruled out, because its not a "for sure thing" Also I'm sure there's been more studies, those are just some I looked up. It's common knoledge thaty most people injest marijana by smoking it, there for even if vaporizer caused no negitive effect it would only be a very small percentage.
Physical Activity promotes Cardio vascular health, has far less of a risk than ingestion of Cannabis in ANY way. The argument is nothing short of asinine and childish, of course everything has risks, but the fact of the matter is the risk of schizophrenia is far greater than you think over half of prolonged canabis users expierence some form of schizophrenia , lowered mental ability, increased agression and absent mindedness. Still sound less risky than some exciercise retard? There's healthier ways to deal with stress.
NO>> NO>> NO ! The way this works is
John A came down with schizophrenia, it was found that he smoked pot, there by pot causes schizophrenia
John B had a auto accident, it was found he smoked pot, there by pot causes auto accidents
Joanie B had a auto accident, it was found that she did not smoke pot, we checked the urine of John C the man she slamed into the side of and found he did indeed smoke pot, there by we determined that his pot smoking was the cause of the accident
Jonh C later developed cancer, knowing that he smoked pot, we determined pot causes cancer
Interestingly my mother died of a brain tumor at 36 years of age, did not smoke pot, smoke tobacco, drink alcohol yet developed cancer. By further scientific data I could only conclude she developed this form of cancer because she ate red meat, white meat, vegatables, fruit... because one thing for sure is she did something wrong
My fater died of blood cancer at 67, he did not smoke, drink but he too also ate food... most likely the cause
Now me on the other hand, smoked weed and tobacco like a cole chimney, made it to 52 and cant die soon enough to get the fuck out of this pass the accountability ball assed world of pussy controled beaurocracy
I don't even have to argue with you on that, you misunderstood me, I said mass amounts of marijuana over time can lead to Schizophrenia. I didn't say marijuana in general would cause it from a couple of times taking it. Also the research isn't flawed Schizophrenia is caused from heavy marijuana use over time. There's proof and facts about it obviously you don't follow much science.
Also I didn't say marijuana caused cancer, never in this whole thread did I say that, and you are accusing me of saying that marijuana and tobacco are the only causes of cancer, well I didn't say neither of those things, those deaths are unrelated to what I mentioned. I said Lung cancer is mostly caused from tobacco (cigarettes) so the fact both your parents had cancer has nothing to do with what I said, well partly unless you weren't trying to make a point. And personally I think you might be right about their cause of death either that or it ran in your family.
I enjoy polite argument; but you're not only being rude, you're also being irrational. Cough syrup in fact contains so many chemicals that hinder our judgment that it clearly says "DO NOT OPERATE MACHINERY AFTER TAKING" right on the bottle. Perhaps if pot is legalized we can just put a warning label on the bottle. Would that solve your accusation that pot makes our roads more dangerous?
Cough medicine is comparible to marijuana. It's definitely comparable to alcohol in that it contains alcohol. Your position on substance abuse and the legality of marijuana promotes fear mongering and a negative attitude toward individuality that borders on insanity. Where would we draw the line with your philosophy?
Also, please note that I refrained from using any offensive terms like "kill yourself" or "you're an idiot." Maybe you can show a little maturity and do the same...
...you fucking twat.
So do I, but its come to the point where I have to insult how idiotic you're being, cough syrup contains only a small amount of alcohol not even enough to altar your mind, clearly you have the wrong idea of it. There's a lot of chemicals in it yes but one would have to consume ALOT of it to hinder their judgement. Just read this it talks all about cough syrup. And if you still don't believe me after reading it then whatever all I can tell you is to ask Doctor or pharmacist and they'll tell you the same as you read in the article below;
"The urge for teens to get high seems to be increasing every decade. Teens have been using over-the-counter medicines for decades now to get high. At one time cough medicines contained amounts of codeine. Kids learned
that if they chugged down these medicines they could get a very cheap and legal high. The FDA replaced codeine with the ingredient dextromethorphan in the 1970's as a cough suppressant. This didn't hinder the teens from discovering they would just have to consume larger amounts of cough medicine to get the same effect. You can now find dextromethorphan in tablets, liquid, and even lozenges. This makes the drug easy to attain in various forms. Teens assume that since it's an over-the-counter drug, that it isn't dangerous and they won't have any harm done to them as a result. It's also relatively cheap even when bought in large quantities, making it an ideal way to get high.
There is a new way for teens to get their highs nowadays. Now, they can get on the Internet and order dextromethorphan in a new concentrated pill formula. This bypasses the vomiting that would normally happen from taking drinking large quantities of the liquid in cough medicines. If the teen chooses, they may even buy dextromethorphan in powder form from the Internet to snort. They can even gain knowledge on how to abuse it, and how much to take according to their weight. What they don't realize is the side effects that come from taking these drugs.
Some side effects caused from taking large doses of Dextromethorphan are hallucinations, confusion, loss of motor control, blurred vision, impaired judgment, excessive sweating, slurred speech, nausea, vomiting, high blood pressure, disassociative sensations, irregular heartbeat, headache, lethargy, loss of consciousness, seizures, brain damage, and even death just to name a few. Another favorite among teens is Coricidin Cough and Cold, also known as the 3 C's. This medicine is usually used for patients that have high blood pressure and can't take other cough medicines because they will raise their blood pressure. Teens also consume this medicine in very high doses as well."
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/126642/is_your_teen_getting_high_from_your.html?cat=25
You see, that is only from a large quantity no one in their right mind would do that, and even if they did they wouldn't be able to do it for long because it would damage their body. So when you say Pot is not as strong you're wrong, but you are right and wrong about one thing, it does hinder the judgement but not if you take a simple spoonful. It only causes those symptoms after large amounts are consumed.
Should we also make it illegal for a person to drive who is over the age of sixty-five? Or should we make it illegal for people to drive motorcycles since they're more dangerous than enclosed vehicles, and people who drive motorcycles often drive irresponsibly?
Also, please note that I refrained from using any offensive terms like "kill yourself" or "you're an idiot." Maybe you can show a little maturity and do the same...
Making it illegal for someone over the age of 65 to drive is just wrong and ageist I mean it wouldn't hurt to adjust some of the rules a little bit, such as getting their eyes tested daily like once or twice a year, and to take the course again, to ensure everything is up-to-date. Also about the motorcycles, I don't think that would be right, its a vehcile just like a car I don't see any reason for it to be banned. It doesn't apply though, sure riders often get into accidents on them but its not like everyone is reckless on them, I'm actually one of those people who are responsible when it comes to motorcycles because I own one. Also sure there's a high majority that are irresponsible but that doesn't mean they should be banned. Besides its not the same as what we are talking about, we were talking about drugs that altar the mind that doesn't fall into that category.
And even if they did ban them there wouldn't be much of a difference considering every year they keep coming out with faster cars people want fast. Its not about safety anymore, its sad to hear but its just the way it is, there will NEVER be complete peace on the road, but all I'm saying is it wouldn't make matters better to legalize marijuana. I mean we already have alcohol why on earth would we need to have marijuana? sure a label would help a little but even so it would be very convient for people to get. Which would be bad because a child could see it in their parents cabinet or something and randomly take it. It happens, people experiment at an early age. Think about what kind of example parents everywhere would be setting for their kids.
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Also my apologies about being rude, I was just irritated one thing about me that annoys me is when people act like an idiot, no offense, its just one of my pet peeves. And twat? Lol do you even know what twat means? clearly not, because not at all does that apply to me, because I'm not a pussy/coward. In my opinion that was hypocritical of you, saying you don't throw insults around when yet you just did, luckily I don't give a shit.
Cough syrup is way stronger than pot. That shit is powerful! Mainly because of a little thing called dextromethorphan.
Well you're wrong about it being stronger than marijuana, like all drugs it has side effects. The only way it would be stronger than marijuana is if someone consumed a large amount of it, but why would someone do this? there'd be no purpose when they could easily get pot or something stronger from a friend or someone else.
