Who "also" hates Hip Hop???

Benighted1 has taken the time out of his busy homosexual lifestyle to come to the Opeth forum to start a flame war, and that he shall have... :heh:

bh, I have much better tastes

And how do you know what my sexual preference is ? and what business of yours is it anyway?
I was just merely pointing out that you were making a fool of yourself as usual..

Build a bridge dude....
 
eminem, "technically" speaking (IE flow, delivery, rhyme construction) is one of the best rappers of all time

but his lyrical content is garbage most of the time (so I wouldn't put him in my top 30 of all time)
 
check out this song by aceyalone - a beautiful mine

http://www.zshare.net/audio/14-a-beautiful-mine-mp3.html

here are the lyrics - I believe it a song about the development of mankind (perhaps god is the "beautiful mind") I'm not sure

A Beautiful mind, turned water into wine
But that’s not all
Broke the water, shined through
Shaped the earth, created the colder life
Radiated with energy, the great boat of life
The spark
Sparkling through the dark night
Then walked
And took forever without a thing in sight
Didn’t hear a sound to the first ?treat?
?Deaf to the ocean swelled?, washed up a miracle
A Beautiful yours, a beautiful mine

By the grace of fire, out sprouts the land
And did desire, footprints in the sand
On top of the mountain peak where the man speaks to himself
Cursing to them with a start
What he felt can’t be described
It’s alive
Rise with the tide
Communicate with all sides, nothing wants to die
Buildin’ this, build a bridge
Build a tower
Construct a dam, nigga, ho
Build a flower
Ultraviolet rays magnified the essence
All praise to the presence, one pure thought
Taught him the lessons
This spread with the first migration of the heads
The first wants to flock

A beautiful yours, a beautiful mine
One’s so enlightened; one’s so divine
The planet’s hour line, all devoid of time
A beautiful mind

They opened up the brain and opened up the heart
What is man made of?
Love from the dark
The will to invent the will
Work the field, the shield, the intent to kill, the uphill
Matter of existence, matter of persistence,
Matter of distance to search for the mystics
Finder of lost souls, teacher of apostles, the mind’s so colossal
A beautiful mind

A beautiful mind, a beautiful idea
One that was right here, blind to the naked eye, tied to a fear
Once it was nothing and now it is here
A beautiful mind

Not accidental, coincidental, experimental
A beautiful man, though a touch so gentle
A life so simple to spin on the axis to access the temple
A beautiful mind

A beautiful mind, put fruit on the vine
At the same time he made love a crime
Mellowed out the strings of all mankind
Walked along side you when you was left behind
Purified the waters, carved the canyons
Fed the families when it was starved and famine
Drew the blueprints so everyone had a chance
Organized the people and made man advance
A beautiful yours, a beautiful mine

Something outa nothing
Oh, what a far cry
More than a hard tribe
Pointed out the start guide
Made love, made hate
Saved sake
Nothing left the crate but fate
Constructed structures, ?? a labyrinth
Detailed a portrait
Healed nations
Took blame when no one else was happening
Evolved the species, and had patience
Wrote the scroll in thousands of languages
Came with us to fight against a giant ??
Created chaos, pervaded destruction
Made law and order and then corruption
Laid the foundation for all things to stand on
Then cleared the ground for the mother ship to land on

Sailed across the seas, followed the breeze
Cured disease
Made poison
Settled the fear, took them on the righteous path,
Gave them the math, and still had the time to laugh

What a beautiful mind to have
 
Well, again, I don't think mindless and meandering metal progressions are superior to the musical content of the two great 2Pac albums. I qualified them for a reason ...
 
"anyone who dismisses an entire genre of music to be terible is an idot"

what an original comment :rolleyes:

"metal/prog-metal/death,black,etc metal is merely drawing on past influences"

NO

The only thing those genres have in common is that they are guitar-based. Even the mention of various genres in metal denotes progression. Where are the different styles of rap music????


So there are different styles of metal but no different styles of rap music ?
In your opnion, there is then no difference between A Tribe Called Quest, Geto Boys, OutKast, E-40, Do or Die, Notorious B.I.G., 2Pac, Beastie Boys, Souls of Mischief, Puff Daddy, Juvenile, Wu-Tang Clan, Black Eyed Peas, Eminem, NWA, DJ Quik, Bone Thugs-n-Harmony and UGK ?

If the sole mention of various genres in metal denotes progression, I'll gladly mention a few rap genres:

Hyphy, Miami Bass, East Coast Rap, West Coast Gangsta Rap, Abstract Rap, Southern Rap, Alternative Rap, Hardcore Rap, Jazz Rap, Pop Rap, Rap Metal, Turntablism, Christian Rap, Snap and Crunk amongst others.
 
Looking at that list of subgenres, most of them are either basically the same thing in a slightly different style (Chopped and screwed, Crunk, Gangsta, G-funk) or aren't even worth mentioning (Country rap, Electro hop, Hip house, Ghettotech, Rapcore, Reggaeton). There are only a few actual subgenres there that are actually a "progression" or a truly unique style of "rap". Most of those genres are actually just regional styles of rap, such as East coast and West Coast rap, and some of those subgenres are identical except for having different lyrical themes.

Also, it is not neccessary to list "freestyle" or "instrumental" as subgenres :Smug:

Subgenre: basically the same thing in a slightly different style.
 
that crap isn't progression, it's "digression."

I can agree with this statement, in a way. I wouldn't actually consider "Miami Bass, Hardcore Rap, Crunk, Gangsta Rap etc... to be a progression, but a diluted form of Hip Hop which is not really innovative, but simplified versions of the original rap formula with different lyrical themes...
 
eminem, "technically" speaking (IE flow, delivery, rhyme construction) is one of the best rappers of all time

but his lyrical content is garbage most of the time (so I wouldn't put him in my top 30 of all time)
Well said.

By the grace of fire, out sprouts the land
And did desire, footprints in the sand
On top of the mountain peak where the man speaks to himself
Cursing to them with a start
What he felt can’t be described
It’s alive
Rise with the tide
Communicate with all sides, nothing wants to die
Buildin’ this, build a bridge
Build a tower
Construct a dam, nigga, hoBuild a flower
Ultraviolet rays magnified the essence
All praise to the presence, one pure thought
Taught him the lessons
This spread with the first migration of the heads
The first wants to flock
nice touch. yes, I believe it is the G-man.
but the whole thing reads like a directionless musing.