Hip Hop "Artists" are no better than Imus

[JayKeeley]

That was the title of an article today in the Wall Street Journal.

An excerpt and quote from the HSAN (Hip-Hop Summit Action Network), an advocacy group for the rap industry:

Mr Imus is NOT a hip-hop artist or a poet. Hip-hop artists rap about what they see, hear, and feel around them, their experience of the world. Like the artists throughout history, their messages are a mirror of what is right and wrong with society."

and....

"Language of hip-hop is now mainstream and in play in both schoolyards and penthouses. In the world of hip hip, a woman who DISPLEASES THE NARRATOR is often referred to as a 'ho' ".

To disrespect women is an everyday thing, a sign of authority and virility. Because it's a common enough expression in some circles, Imus thought their listeners would let their remarks slide.


So basically, if you is white, don't be using the hip hop language. Not even Eminem does that.

Dunno about Vanilla Ice.

Discuss.

 

[lurch70]

a few NY radio stations ... I am pretty sure Hot97 was not part of them ... already stated that they will not play questionable materials anymore.

but really I think the whole thing is bullshit.

we need black people just like they need us ... who the f are we going to make fun of if they get their shit straight?

 

[Guthrum]

Naggers!

 

[JayKeeley]

gotta laugh at this bit:

To disrespect women is an everyday thing, a sign of authority and virility.

Because it's a common enough expression in some circles, Imus thought their listeners would let their remarks slide.

 

[NAD]

Modern mainstream rap doesn't even care about quality, hasn't for years. The album covers blatantly tell you WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY.

Which is stupid, because flash back to the 80's and 90's when rap was political at best, entertaining at worst.

Yes I realize that not all modern rap is of that terrible variety, but a substantial chunk is. I mean, 50 Cent made a movie?!? About HIMSELF?!? WTF.

 

[EricT]

How about a kneegrow to english translation of that song, great deceiver?

 

[lurch70]

Modern mainstream rap doesn't even care about quality, hasn't for years. The album covers blatantly tell you WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY.

Which is stupid, because flash back to the 80's and 90's when rap was political at best, entertaining at worst.

Yes I realize that not all modern rap is of that terrible variety, but a substantial chunk is. I mean, 50 Cent made a movie?!? About HIMSELF?!? WTF.

today's hip hop is laughable at best ... have not heard anything great since biggie passed.

MIMS?

[Chorus: Mims]
This is why Im hot
This is why Im hot
This is why (this is why)
This is why Im hot
[x2]
I'm hot cuz im fly,
You ain't cuz you not,
This is why (this is why)
This is why Im hot
I'm hot cuz im fly,
You hate cuz you not (M.I.M.S.!)
This is why (this is why)
This is why I'm hot.

[Verse 1:]
This is why I'm hot, I don't gotta rap
I could sell a mil. sayin' nothing on the track
I represent New York, I got it on my back,
Niggas say that we lost it, so imma bring it back.
I love the Dirty Dirty, cuz niggas show me love
The ladies start to bounce as soon as I hit the club.
But in the Midwest, they love to take it slow,
So when I hit that shit, I watch em (get it on the flo')
And if you need it hyphy, I'll take it to the Bay,
'Frisco to Sac-Town, they do it everyday.
Compton to Hollywood, soon as I hit LA,
I'm in the low-low, I do it the Cali way.
And when I hit the Chi', people tell me that I'm fly.
They like the way I dress, they like my attire.
They love how I move crowds from side-to-side,
They ask me how I do it, and simply I reply:

[Chorus:]
This is why Im hot
This is why Im hot
This is why (this is why)
This is why Im hot
[x2]
I'm hot cuz im fly,
You ain't cuz you not,
This is why (this is why)
This is why Im hot
I'm hot cuz im fly,
You hate cuz you not (M.I.M.S.!)
This is why (this is why)
This is why I'm hot.

[Verse 2:]
This is why I'm hot, catch me on the block,
Every other day, another bitch, another drop,
16 bars, 24 a pop,
44 a song, nigga gimme what chu got.
I'm into drivin cars, fresh up off the lot ,
Im into shuttin stores down, just so I could shop.
If you need a bird, I could get it chopped,
Tell me what chu need, you know I get em by the flock.
I call my homie Black, meet me on the Avvve.
I hit Wash. Heights with the money in the bag.
We into big spendin', you see my pimpin' never drag,
Find me with different women that you niggas never had.
For those who say they know me, know I'm focused on my green
Playa you come between, you better focus on the beam.
I keep it so mean, the way you seen me lean,
And when I say Im hot, my nigga this is what I mean

[chorus:]
This is why Im hot
This is why Im hot
This is why (this is why)
This is why Im hot
[x2]
I'm hot cuz im fly,
You ain't cuz you not,
This is why (this is why)
This is why Im hot
I'm hot cuz im fly,
You hate cuz you not (M.I.M.S.!)
This is why (this is why)
This is why I'm hot.

[verse 3:]
This is why im hot, shorty see the drop
Asked me what I paid, and I say yeah, I paid a guap.
And then I hit the switch, that take away the top,
So chicks around the way, they call me Creame of the Crop.
They hop in the car, I tell em “All aboard”
We hit the studio, they say they like how I record.
I gave em Black Train and I Did You Wrong,
So everytime I see them, they tell me that's their song.
They say I'm the bomb,
They love the way the charm,
Hangin from the neck, and compliments the arm,
Which compliments the ear, then comes the gear,
So when I hit the room, the shorties stop 'n stare.
Niggas start to hate, rearrange they face,
But little do they know, I keep them thangs by waist
Son I reply, nobody got to die,
Similar to Lil' Weez cuz I got the fire.

[Chorus:]
This is why Im hot
This is why Im hot
This is why (this is why)
This is why Im hot
[x2]
I'm hot cuz im fly,
You ain't cuz you not,
This is why (this is why)
This is why Im hot
I'm hot cuz im fly,
You hate cuz you not (MIMS!)
This is why (this is why)
This is why I'm hot.

 

[NAD]

Mumps
In
My
Shit

 

[NAD]

*walks ten feet from the computer lab to the reference desk*

hahaha

If I were you I'd enjoy joining in with people complaining about their 2 hour commute as many times as possible.

 

[Guthrum]

 

[Lies and Perfidy]

needs more public enemy.

 

[skeptik]

THEY WOULDN'T PUT THEM OUT IF THEY WEREN'T SO FUCKING EFFECTIVE!

Actually most polls show that negative campaigning has a negative effect on the voting public in terms of increases in distance and apathy and a distrust and dislike of candidates who negatively campaign.

 

[NAD]

needs more public enemy.

+1.21 gigawatts

 

[Disgustipated]

Imus, Imus, who the fuck is Imus?

 

[cthulufhtagn]

mainstream rap is garbage, and the funny thing is it's white record and tv execs that push this garbage on the public and promote the corresponding image. you have mainstream artists on mtv talking about representing black culture, but do they even know who they have to thank for their fame (and record sales, considering how many white suburban teens lap the shit up)?
50-cent and his ilk more than anything represent a degradation of african-american culture--despite what some might say, extreme consumerism, sexism, etc are hardly hallmarks of the black community. but people, white and black, because both are victims of its message, have to understand and reject this shameless co-op for what it is or it will continue to not only be popular but negatively influence and misrepresent the black community. young black kids growing up listening to and watching this mass-marketed crap don't even understand how they're being manipulated by white dollars, this shit didn't just become popular by itself.

this could be seen as an indictment of rap in general, but there's a difference between rap that talks about violence as a reality and a way of life (NWA etc) and rap that uses violence as a cynical attempt to sell records. and it is exactly this kind of mass-produced mainstream rap which carries the greed-driven, consumerist messages that are the most harmful. the man is everywhere.


i have a lot of thoughts on this today apparently

 

[Reign in Acai]

This trash deludes a young man's mind far more than any Judas Priest song championing suicide ever would. I once had a chum who would listen to 2pac day and night. I asked him once during a conversation that revolved around death, "Are You afraid to Die?". He replied, "No. I want to be with Tupac up at Thug Mansion.". I shook my head like Susperia shakes an ept test, and replied, "Are you fucking serious?" To which it seemed he was. Mind you that this guy wasn;t even a thug, yet in his mind, Mr. Shakur had a blunt at the coffee table with his name on it. Inconcievable!!!

 

[skeptik]

mainstream rap is garbage, and the funny thing is it's white record and tv execs that push this garbage on the public and promote the corresponding image. you have mainstream artists on mtv talking about representing black culture, but do they even know who they have to thank for their fame (and record sales, considering how many white suburban teens lap the shit up)?
50-cent and his ilk more than anything represent a degradation of african-american culture--despite what some might say, extreme consumerism, sexism, etc are hardly hallmarks of the black community. but people, white and black, because both are victims of its message, have to understand and reject this shameless co-op for what it is or it will continue to not only be popular but negatively influence and misrepresent the black community. young black kids growing up listening to and watching this mass-marketed crap don't even understand how they're being manipulated by white dollars, this shit didn't just become popular by itself.

this could be seen as an indictment of rap in general, but there's a difference between rap that talks about violence as a reality and a way of life (NWA etc) and rap that uses violence as a cynical attempt to sell records. and it is exactly this kind of mass-produced mainstream rap which carries the greed-driven, consumerist messages that are the most harmful. the man is everywhere.


i have a lot of thoughts on this today apparently

+ a lot

 

[lurch70]

I shook my head like Susperia shakes an ept test

you would be a great hip hop lyricist

 

[Reign in Acai]

Dude, I have some hip hop recordings that myself, Climb Thar, and our buddy, Damay produced. I'll try to get a hold of them this week. Shit's off the rizzle.

 

[Guthrum]