FAITHKILLER
MorningStar
ThanksBut there IS feeling in music - that's all what I meant.
May I rewrite your sentence and make it like this?
there IS feeling , created by the interaction of the brain with the music!
ThanksBut there IS feeling in music - that's all what I meant.
The feeling is created by the composer by creating music that resonates the intended states of mind and is then transferred onto the listener. Everyone can tell apart aggressive music from sorrowful music, not just by tempo, but the nature of the melodies.
This is not true. Someone can sing with or without feeling, especially singer like Beyonce, Alicia Keys, Christina Aguilera and so on... all those ballads. Alexi for example definitely played the NMF chorus with feeling.
Take Kirk Hammet for example. He's definitely not the best technically, and all of you probably hate the shit out of him (most likely due to some nonsensical innate reaction of lolFUCKUMETALLICANUB) but he's without a doubt greater than Alexi and Gilbert put together.
And what the fuck is wrong with you people trying to downplay feeling in playing? The unit of measurement for feeling is appreciation... or passion.
Lots of good music isn't the result of some bullshit technical decision...
I sincerely doubt while writing the new album Alexi suddenly decided, "hmmm, this lead bit in SKO would probably sound better if I added some over-exaggerated bends and vibrato."
The feelings of lakes and trees that j00nas feels while listening to CoB cannot be measured. So why bother even arguing about who's a better composer? It's rather pointless really.
The feelings of lakes and trees that j00nas feels while listening to CoB cannot be measured. So why bother even arguing about who's a better composer? It's rather pointless really.
And I can't see all the feeling in the Not My Funeral pre-chorus, it's just pinch harmonics that create no emotion.
Joonas is his normal retarded self and probably means the natural harmonics.Don't get the point of this sentence because there are no pinch harmonics in the pre-chorus and nobody was talking about this part.
eveningninja, as the smartass of this thread, do you really think there is no "feeling" in music and that it's all business? do you really think that Paul Gilbert would say if you ask if him if he plays with feeling "No. There's no feeling in my music. All is just from my awesome technique."?
Um... Again, we were actually talking about technical skill of guitar playing, not some fabled definition of "greatness" which you pulled out of your ass.
As others have said, feeling is sparked from your individual reaction to the music, and that is all subjective.
Simply explained, feeling is like an artist painting a canvas. The final product can be a mess of color or a nice painting. Same with music. If you have the necessary technique to execute what you feel, the guitar becomes part of you and you become part of the guitar. Its like a marriage.
When you play with feeling, you are expressing the modd you are in at that particular moment. I can't see someone playing a sad song if he just won a million dollar. On the other hand, you can mimic the feeling of sadness and do a decent job.
Shredding has nothing to do with feeling. Anybody can shred. Van halen doesn't shred yet he communicates what he feels with short spunky riff. Randy Rhoads played with much feeling. His riff weren't super fast but they were technical and demanded some good fingering skills to play them. Malsteem feels but never like Van halen, Rhoades. Listen to Steve Vai and Satriani especially. They use their instrument as if it was their voice and do a darn good job at it.
In the end, you need to have the necessary technique and knowledge of some theory to fully express what you are feeling or what you want to tansmit as a feeling. Otherwise, you are limited to express a tiny vocabulary of what you know how to play but not necessarily, what you are singing in your head.
When you get to the point of singing what you play, you are on the right track to achieving this
This is by far the biggest bullshit I've hear from you. Sorry.You're not really seeing my point. This feeling which you speak of is not objectively implanted into the music for everyone to feel. As others have said, feeling is sparked from your individual reaction to the music, and that is all subjective. Depends on your experiences throughout life, your personal tastes which may have evolved from who knows where/how. Plenty of people like sludge/doom metal and claim there is a lot of feeling in it, but when I listen to it I honestly feel no feeling. Am I wrong to think so? All the artist can do is be genuine about his or her music, some people will have feelings about it, others it won't do anything for. That is life.
And about PG having "feeling" in his music, you're switching between talking about pop singers who do not write most of their own music to a very skilled guitarist who does write all his own music. Two different examples... which would you like to talk about? Obviously PG has "feeling" in his music, it'll take that kind of self-drive and motivation to become successful when you don't corporations of songwriters and marketers behind you, forging the way to success. But your previous example - a pop singer singing some hit song written for her is not required to have "feeling." Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't, but you can't judge that by your own personal taste for the music.
This is by far the biggest bullshit I've hear from you. Sorry.
No, I can't, I fully support everything eveningninja has said. Admittedly, I wouldn't play the Gilbert card so much but he's still right.Uh... so now feeling is the way a guitar player manipulates his strings? I was talking about something completely else, so I drop off this convo. I ment feeling as like melody, not bends and vibration... You guitarists live in a realm of your own. Can't you just accept both feeling and technicality are important?