GMD Poll: Judas Priest’s Discography Ranked

[TechnicalBarbarity]

is the rest of their discography so bad that a piece of shit record like Rocka Rolla is making people lists? Run of the Mill is a 5 star track, Caviar and Meths is okay, and the rest of the album is just garbage.

 

[rms]

You meant Rocka Rolla right?

holy shit Ozz has a legitimate in crowd metal opinion

 

[EspaDa]

Sin After Sin isn't just good enough. It's far worse than Sad Wings of Destiny, Killing Machine or Stained Class. Yeah, maybe I've exaggerated a bit, Rocka Rolla may be inferior to SAF.

 

[The Ozzman]

holy shit Ozz has a legitimate in crowd metal opinion

I do have them but only occasionally. It's hip to be square.

 

[no country for old wainds]

holy shit Ozz has a legitimate in crowd metal opinion

i thought rocka rolla was pretty popular with in crowd types actually, i think most would say killing machine

 

[rms]

yeeeee i actually forgot that album existed

 

[The Ozzman]

Killing Machine is awesome you dindus

 

[HamburgerBoy]

is the rest of their discography so bad that a piece of shit record like Rocka Rolla is making people lists? Run of the Mill is a 5 star track, Caviar and Meths is okay, and the rest of the album is just garbage.

Never Satisfied and Dying to Meet You are great songs m8

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Obviously "Run of the Mill" is masterful but I also love "Cheater." The title track is solid too. The Winter trio are a little messy and the other tracks are decent, but nothing special. Overall, a good, not great album. It's certainly not bad.

 

[The Ozzman]

That album runs into every other song. Messy as fuck dudes. Anyone who rates that higher than any other 70s album wants HBB to give them a rimjob.

@EspaDa better find a wedding to crash

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Why wouldn't they? I have great oral hygiene.

 

[EspaDa]

@EspaDa better find a wedding to crash

Going to another wedding this September. Or even two weddings. Fuck me.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

I was busy this weekend so sorry for missing the fallout of my jab at @crimsonfloyd, but it honestly blows my mind that someone would single out Last Rose of Summer as the most offensive track on Sin After Sin while giving Here Come the Tears a complete pass.

the vocals are cloy and saccharine

How do I know you're not saying that just because you think anything with an optimistic/sentimental mood isn't what Priest is "supposed to" sound like?

Here Come the Tears' lyrics could've been written by a 13 year old, and regardless of that Halford's metal screams are clearly over-the-top in a song this downbeat/melancholy. To me it's a classic case of a metal band failing at a style that demands more subtlety than their signature style. Maybe Priest had no more business experimenting with the sentimentalism of Last Rose than they did with the melancholy of Here Come the Tears, but Last Rose at least has a subtlety that's sorely lacking on Here Come the Tears.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I still love Hear Come the Tears, but yeah, it's easily the most melodramatic and cheesy song on the album. Neither of those qualities are mutually exclusive to loving Priest for me, if anything they're a part of the package, but I think ultimately a lot of people just find Last Rose outside of their musical comfort zone and are trying to rationalize other reasons for not liking it.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Here's another opinion on these two songs from the reviewer I quoted in the "non-metal music you like" thread a while ago:

I can count only one serious misfire: the overblown operatic ballad 'Here Come The Tears'. It's fashioned so disgustingly in accordance to the classic laws of all power ballads that it simply reeks. Opening melancholic acoustic guitar? You got it. Screaming "emotive" vocals? Sure, especially in the laughable 'I want to be lo-o-o-o-ua-ua-ua-ved!!' section. An onslaught of monotonous power chords and an obligatory 'cathartic' guitar solo? Right away, sir. I hate this song, it's so dang worthy of similar efforts by Aerosmith...

Which is not to say I hold similar emotions for 'Last Rose Of Summer'. When I first heard the song, I couldn't believe my ears... I almost figured I was listening to a San Francisco band like Love or a particularly expressive Stevie Winwood ballad. The song's got impeccable harmonies, gorgeous vocal hooks, blistering guitar interplay (slightly 'phased out' acoustic rhythm and economic, but tasteful electric licks woven around), and a lengthy coda which burns into your brain as one member of the band chants 'last rose of summer' and Halford wails in the background a la Robert Plant. Certianly the least idiosyncratic song in the entire Judas Priest canon.

http://starling.rinet.ru/music/judas.htm

 

[crimsonfloyd]

I was busy this weekend so sorry for missing the fallout of my jab at @crimsonfloyd, but it honestly blows my mind that someone would single out Last Rose of Summer as the most offensive track on Sin After Sin while giving Here Come the Tears a complete pass.


How do I know you're not saying that just because you think anything with an optimistic/sentimental mood isn't what Priest is "supposed to" sound like?

Stop overcomplicating the reasons why I think a weak song is weak. Priest have numerous optimistic and/or sentimental songs and most of them work. This one doesn't.

Here Come the Tears' lyrics could've been written by a 13 year old, and regardless of that Halford's metal screams are clearly over-the-top in a song this downbeat/melancholy. To me it's a classic case of a metal band failing at a style that demands more subtlety than their signature style. Maybe Priest had no more business experimenting with the sentimentalism of Last Rose than they did with the melancholy of Here Come the Tears, but Last Rose at least has a subtlety that's sorely lacking on Here Come the Tears.

Here Comes the Tears is a raw and direct communication of pain and loneliness. It is executed perfectly from start to finish with excellent development, and musicianship and vocals that illustrate the lyrical theme. The fact that you would even think of comparing it to Last Rose of Summer damages your credibility.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

The fact that you would even think of comparing it to Last Rose of Summer damages your credibility.

Actually it's a pretty common thing to discuss a metal band's ballads separately from their other material, but good to know you're the authority on credibility around here.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Here Comes to Lulz. Both of those songs are garbage.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

48 hour warning for any submissions or revisions.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

#17 Jugulator (1997)

Average Points: 1.77/17

In high school I had this thing with my parents that when I did all my homework for X days (i forget the length of time) they'd buy me an album of my choice. I had heard some JP classics on the radio and Breaking the Law on Beavis and Butthead and so I asked for a JP album one time. They bought me the latest one which was Jugulator. Oh god it was such garbage, even back then. That was my first JP album and I thought so poorly of them for awhile. Until one day I went to visit an uncle who was swearing off of metal, and gave me his old school JP and Black Sabbath collections. Thank goodness for that.