ouch, you really got me there! whew! how ever will i recover from such vehemenence and witticism. now, if you please, allow me to respond. this is supposed to be a METAL board, yet the last time i heard this much tree hugging going on, it was surrounded by a fog of petuli stench. so you can see my obvious confusion as to the genre of the involved debatees. second point of reference, this thread is specifically a PICTURE thread, hence the reason demonhelm pointed out the painfully obvious lack of pictures involved and i had to agree. now, you are correct, i am an idiot! and i love the fact that i am. that way i don't have to proclaim to be an elitist, enviromentaly aware, nose in the air piece of tripe and i am free to go about my merry way enjoying the music i play/listen to and revel in the fact that i have left a legacy that will perish when this planet does (if ever)!