Old school death metal

[Mort Divine]

still... punk and metal subculture are vastly different

could you imagine a genre of punk coming out with a name relating to headbanging???

it's almost the same thing

Punk and thrash (or metal as a whole) are not that dissimilar, culturally.

 

[Dazed and Brutal]

Both are a more aggressive type of music, use distorted guitars, and deal with social taboos. Not THAT much different.

 

[Mr_Haze]

They're not very different. Go listen and read up on the crossover and crust punk scenes.

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

http://hessian.org/metal/music/ << there's a pretty interesting summary of metal history

basically states that hardcore >>> thrash >> grindcore

hell here's "thrasher magazine" - http://www.thrashermagazine.com/ << pretty much a skateboarding magazine

and despite what similarities there may be between the 2 genres, the idea that a term relating to punk music/subculture would become the name of one of the most significant genres of metal seems highly unlikely to me

I dunno, I don't really care for this (I just wanted to argue it) - I have no problem calling speed metal "thrash" so we don't have any more arguments like this in the future

 

[Evil?]

Please stop.

 

[CF87]

sodom and kreator = speed metal
thrash = DRI, cryptic slaughter etc...

DRI and Cryptic Slaughter sound more like punk/hardcore bands than anything so than you get 'crossover', and they are not fully punk or hardcore so labelling them that would not really make sense, and they have some thrash.

Kreator,Sodom =thrash.

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

DRI and Cryptic Slaughter sound more like punk/hardcore bands than anything so than you get 'crossover', and they are not fully punk or hardcore so labelling them that would not really make sense, and they have some thrash.

Kreator,Sodom =thrash.

"crossover" = thrash
Thrash = speed metal

thrash is a term related to punk subculture (ever hear of someone "thrashing"?? they are talking about skateboarding/other similar extreme sports)

eh whatever, I'm not going to argue this again

 

[CF87]

Shut up.

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

Shut up.

http://hessian.org/metal/music/

 

[Mr_Haze]

Then what is Exciter? Power metal?

Edit: Okay I read that site. But I'm not going to call Kreator extreme speed metal.

 

[CF87]

http://hessian.org/metal/music/

I don't give a shit what some site says. shut up

 

[Mort Divine]

"crossover" = thrash
Thrash = speed metal

You're pretty much wrong.

 

[Hatebreeder]

Punk and thrash (or metal as a whole) are not that dissimilar, culturally.

It's amazing how many people cannot grasp this concept. Black metal had a lot of punk influence in the early days too, and modern stuff tends to show a bit of the influence as well. Listening to early Darkthrone and and Venom reminds me of some hardcore punk.

 

[EmbraceTheDeath]

Asphyx is real cool. If your looking for stuff like them, I'd reccomend Brutality, Cancer, Sinister, Massacra, Massacre, Mortician, Demilich, Mortification(if Christian death is ok with you) and Pungent Stench

 

[Life Sucks]

It's amazing how many people cannot grasp this concept. Black metal had a lot of punk influence in the early days too, and modern stuff tends to show a bit of the influence as well. Listening to early Darkthrone and and Venom reminds me of some hardcore punk.

Yes. The guitar playing technique on Transylvanian Hunger is, in fact, very punk-ish.

 

[Dead Star]

Try TIMEGHOUL for obscure, twisted-techincal mid-90s USDM. Conceptually excellent.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Oh dear sweet christ get back on topic.

 

[CF87]

 

[Evil?]

Would it be possible to upload some tracks from that album Greys?

 

[CF87]

No