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What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse
Oh yeah I believe in way more ridiculous shit to be sure. Tolkien and vampires and thrash and Santa. But I don't think that any of it is actually real.
lol this is the worst defence speech of religion I have ever heardit does sound ridiculous, but lots of beliefs do such as past lives, zodiac signs, summoning demons, the amityville horror was real, thrash is good, wokeness, and pineapple not going on pizza. the world is cookoo
Thx Mike. Eric Tomasetti clearly needs some deep loving but I wasn’t about to share any of mine.
also, arguably, pineapple pizza is responsible for comparatively very few murders, rapes, wars, genocides and oppressions
Also, pineapple/pepperoni sounds amazing.
Opeth17, are you familiar with the writings of Meister Eckhart?
I'm sure another thread can be created, but what are everyone's beliefs? My journey has actually been the exact opposite of Josh's
Were you one of those non-denominational types?
Born Methodist, then parents moved to Baptist while I was still a youngin.
My mom was a strong Christian Woman (Corpus Christi!). She would send my sister and I to VBS and various camps. I got baptized when I was 10 or so, because that's what they wanted. But honestly, I never felt strong about those beliefs. I felt foolish singing hymns. And when people raise their hands to the heavens during hymnal worship, I would chuckle.
I married a Catholic, but she was hardly the church going type. So we remained Heathens over the years, though we tried going to church a few times, but it didn't stick.
I dont agree with the "when I die I will rot" crowd, but it seems ridiculous to me to believe in the christian god, while discounting all the other gods. Who is to say the egyptians weren't right in their worship of Ra? Or maybe Valhalla really is a place of slain warriors? Or Santa lives in the north pole? Or maybe we are in the Matrix?
The Truth is out there /mulder
My only religious influence growing up was a Baptist grandmother and I was completely turned off by practically everything about it. It seemed like there was a lot missing and now I know that there was because they threw away 90% of authentic Christianity. There's very little going on there that actually looks like what Christians were thinking, saying, or doing in the 1st century. This is the first thing I had to understand to ever give Christianity a chance. There are beliefs and practices that are demonstrably authentic to Christianity and then there are myriad spin-offs on a spectrum from kind of close in some ways but fundamentally wrong in others (Roman Catholicism) to completely insane and basically a new religion (Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc.).
If you believe there is some kind of reality beyond the purely material then sorting through various truth claims is part of the process. Modern westerners have been deeply imbued with relativism so I get where this perspective comes from, but I think there are ways to discern which of these claims are true. There is overlap in some ways, but also elements of mutual exclusivity. Interestingly, as an Orthodox Christian I don't have to deny the existence of these other "gods" as spiritual beings, only that they are not the Creator who is solely worthy of worship. There's an interesting podcast on this called the "Lord of Spirits" that I've listened to a bit that has been really helpful on this topic.
One of my major turnoffs to the Church (not necessarily the religion) was that churches are there to make money. They are a business. That in and of itself just seems wrong to me. Jesus convinced all those who followed to give up worldly possessions, yet here we have churches wanting money to build a gym in the church property. GTFO. One only needs to look at Joel Osteen to see the hypocrisy.
Another problem was the (fairly recent) PC moves the church has made. The Bible is rigid, and not a living document. Tons of the hardline stances the old church had suddenly became soft and acceptable with regards to abortion, female pastors and LGBTQ, among others.
I guess they were worried about losing their congregation.
I dated a girl who was convinced of the Life Path/Numerology belief system. It's crazy, but something like that seems more plausible to me. In fact it seems more plausible than both the God vs Devil narrative and the Big Bang
The whole prosperity gospel farce is an outgrowth of poor evangelical theology and practice and, as you've noted, completely inauthentic to Christianity.
The Secular Humanist Associations™ such as the Episcopal church, United Methodists, Evangelical Lutherans, etc. etc. have very little to do with Christianity either. They are indeed conforming to the world in a sad and ineffective attempt to be relevant. We don't do any of the things you mentioned there.
Never really seen much in this new age kind of stuff, at least as any comprehensive world view. I get why people searching for spiritual answers find these things appealing when surrounded by the dry desert of Protestantism.