Long post ahead:
Wow, nice hasty over-generalization. Many forms of metal excluding various forms of Doom use multiple instruments other than the standard guitar, bass, drum setup. And infinitely more types of music use the romantic mindset than just doom metal; even other metal genres do it more (Black metal should be most obvious).
And lyrically, they are very similar,
Here are a few Black Sabbath examples:
and the lyrics to the song where modern forms of "Doom" actually took the genre name (and imagery no less, usually minus the political affiliations):
Drugs, destruction, pain, rotting away, perverse visions of reality, synonyms et al. - of course modern funeral doom lyrics aren't going to be exactly the same as the shit above, why would it be? There is a HUGE gap not only in time, but in alternative influences; furthermore, not all bands in the same genre have to have the same lyrical goal - hence why there are bands that center around other types of themes (history, cosmology, torture, philosophy, various writers, etc) than the "gothicy romanticist bullshit" you're speaking about.
Even with the political and personal outlook in the lyrics listed above, it is traditional as people to deviate from that which came before, hence why music as a culture/entertainment evolves. But they are relatively close to each other in that most well written lyrics are commentaries on personal views or stories of a given subject. Whether the lyrics are fatalist or not is up to the actual writer and the view being presented, and seeing as people throughout history have expressed such views... it's best not to single out one metal sub-genre just because you don’t agree with the current vernacular.
Saying that though, most lyricists are horrible at expressing their actual views and emotions in written word, hence why the actual music is supposed to equate these feelings on a physical level (rather than a cerebral level). Just because what you hear is the final product of the body of work for a cd/lp/ep/etc., does not mean the original intention of the music was not lost in any other minute ways. Shitty lyrics are part of life, either deal with it or ignore it.
But in all logical honesty, this doesn't really seem like you're angry about the music, it really seems that you don’t appreciate the misnomer of the terms applied to each genre (you said traditional doom metal = heavy metal if I remember). There is a reason Funeral Doom is known as a sub-genre, hence the different monitor. I agree with you on this point though, I would be pissed too (If I agreed with you that is).
So in the end, you're correct in a way...Funeral Doom is not Doom metal; it's merely an altered extension of it.
edit: wait, i think it was Necuratul's comment about doom not slow enough...whatever
misdirected comments suck.
Wow, nice hasty over-generalization. Many forms of metal excluding various forms of Doom use multiple instruments other than the standard guitar, bass, drum setup. And infinitely more types of music use the romantic mindset than just doom metal; even other metal genres do it more (Black metal should be most obvious).
And lyrically, they are very similar,
Here are a few Black Sabbath examples:
and the lyrics to the song where modern forms of "Doom" actually took the genre name (and imagery no less, usually minus the political affiliations):
Drugs, destruction, pain, rotting away, perverse visions of reality, synonyms et al. - of course modern funeral doom lyrics aren't going to be exactly the same as the shit above, why would it be? There is a HUGE gap not only in time, but in alternative influences; furthermore, not all bands in the same genre have to have the same lyrical goal - hence why there are bands that center around other types of themes (history, cosmology, torture, philosophy, various writers, etc) than the "gothicy romanticist bullshit" you're speaking about.
Even with the political and personal outlook in the lyrics listed above, it is traditional as people to deviate from that which came before, hence why music as a culture/entertainment evolves. But they are relatively close to each other in that most well written lyrics are commentaries on personal views or stories of a given subject. Whether the lyrics are fatalist or not is up to the actual writer and the view being presented, and seeing as people throughout history have expressed such views... it's best not to single out one metal sub-genre just because you don’t agree with the current vernacular.
Saying that though, most lyricists are horrible at expressing their actual views and emotions in written word, hence why the actual music is supposed to equate these feelings on a physical level (rather than a cerebral level). Just because what you hear is the final product of the body of work for a cd/lp/ep/etc., does not mean the original intention of the music was not lost in any other minute ways. Shitty lyrics are part of life, either deal with it or ignore it.
But in all logical honesty, this doesn't really seem like you're angry about the music, it really seems that you don’t appreciate the misnomer of the terms applied to each genre (you said traditional doom metal = heavy metal if I remember). There is a reason Funeral Doom is known as a sub-genre, hence the different monitor. I agree with you on this point though, I would be pissed too (If I agreed with you that is).
So in the end, you're correct in a way...Funeral Doom is not Doom metal; it's merely an altered extension of it.
edit: wait, i think it was Necuratul's comment about doom not slow enough...whatever
misdirected comments suck.
