Traditional Doom Metal

I think chad has been looking for a reason to quit, but fans have been egging him on. It's not really a surprise but it still sucks.
 
not a fan of either band, but TGoS were alright and seemed like cool dudes on hellride. ho13 never impressed me at all.

if theres one electric wizard album to get, which would it be? ive always stayed away because i dont like sludge too much or distortion overkill
 
The first one is more straight up stoner doom similar to Sleep's Holy Mountain so probably that one.

Sucks about McCash.
 
OFFICIAL SPIRIT CARAVAN COMMUNIQUE NUMBER TWO

UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN NO LONGER LET MR. ISOM SLANDER MY NAME SO NOW I WILL POST THE REAL TRUTH. I REALLY HAVE NO TIME OR DESIRE TO IDULGE IN THIS LITTLE GIRL FACE BOOK DRAMA , BUT AGAIN, GARY CANT LET IT GO AND NOW WILL HAVE TO FACE THE TRUTH.WE AGREED TO REFORM SPIRIT CARAVAN BECAUSE OF THE LOVE OF THE MUSIC , AND ALSO BECAUSE OF A HUGE DEMAND FROM MUSIC FANS WORLDWIDE. I MOVED ALL MY WORLDLY BELONGINGS , ALL MY GEAR , MOTORCYCLE, ETC. TO MD FRO SOUTH CALIFORNIA TO REFORM SPIRIT CARAVAN AFTER SPEAKING TO GARY AND SHERMAN AND AGREEING TO LET THE PAST BE THE PAST, . WE BOOKED SEVERAL LUCRATIVE AND HIGH PROFILE HEADLINING SHOWS IN EUROPE,AND A LONG AND INCLUSIVE AMERICAN TOUR. UPON ARRIVING IN MARLAND I HAD SEVERAL PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS WITH GARY WHERE WE BOTH AGREED THAT WE WERE HAPPY TO REKINDLE OUR FRIENDSHIP FIRST , AND THE BAND. THE FIRST REHEARSAL WE HAD , WITH THE EURO DEZFEST AND HELLFEST BOOKED, GARY STATED TO ME SHERMAN AND OUR TOUR MANAGER AL, I CANT FLY BECAUSE I HAVE ANXIETY, AND THAT MAKES ME SMOKE MORE. WE WERE STUNNED AND QUIZZICAL ? IT WAS UNREAL . WHAT DID YOU DO IN PENTAGRAM THEN? THIS MAJOR ISSUE WAS RESOLVED WHEN WE SAID WELL WHY DID YOU AGREE TO THESE SHOWS OVERSEAS/ I STILL DONT KNOW WHAT GAME HE WAS PLAYING THERE. THEN HE TOTALY BALKED AT THE AMERICAN TOUR SAYING HE WAS REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH HIS JOB , AND WOULD LOSE HIS CLIENTS.AT THIS TIME I SAID , WELL I TOTALY UNDERSTAND , BUT WE WANT TO TOUR SO IF YOU WANT OUT ITS COOL , I UNDERSTAND , WE WILL HIRE SOMEONE, AND NO ONE WILL BE MAD. I COULD TELL HE WANTED TO DO THE ONE OFF , BIG MONEY SHOWS , BUT IGNORE THE RIGOURS OF REAL TOURING. I GAVE HIM A CHANCE TO BOW OUT IN GOOD GRACES , BUT HE SAID , NO, I WANT TO DO THE US TOUR , TOO SO WE BOOKED IT. UPON SEEING THE DATES HE SAID MY WOW THE EURO SHOWS COME TOO QUICK AFTER MY BIRTHDAY {A PRIL 20TH} WE LEFT FOR EUROPE ON THE 25TH/ SO , TO MAKE HIM HAPPY WE CUT 10 MAJOR CITIES OFF THE TOUR CAUSE HE DEMANDED A 10 DAY CUSHION FOR HIS BIRTHDAY SO PEOPLE OF NEW ORLEANS, PHILADELPHIA, LOS ANGELES, ROCHESTER NY,HOUSTON , DALLAS AND WASHINGTON DC WILL NOT GET TO SEE SPIRIT CARAVAN THIS TIME AROUND BECAUSE OF GARYS NEED FOR A TWO WEEK BIRTHDAY PARTY.FROM THIS TIME ON, MR ISOM CONTINUED TO ATTEMPT TO THROW WRENCHES INTO OUR PLANS WANTING TO NOT TAKE ANY TECHS OR CREW , EVEN ASKING ME TO FIRE OUT TOUR MANAGER AND PERSONAL FRIEND WHO WAS DRIVING, TOUR MANAGING AND LETTING US USE HIS VAN FOR FREE. THIS IS THE GUY WHO TIRELLESSLY BOOKED FLIGHTS, SPENT HIS OWN MONEY FOR OUR START UP MERCH AND DROVE FROM MD TO CA TO PICK ME AND ALL MY SHIT UP. GARY WANTED TO BRING SOME GIRL WHO NOBODY KNEW , HAD NO TECH EXPERIENCE , ETC. FOR WHAT CAN TRUTHFULLY ONLY BE INTERPRETED AS A SEXUAL TRIP FOR HIM . THIS IS WEIRD BECAUSE GARY HAS THE WORST WORK ETHIC I , OR ANYBODY , EVER HAVING HIRED HIM HAS EVER ENCOUNTERED . SO BASICALY HE WAS TELLING US HE CANT FLY, CUTS THE US TOUR CAUSE HIS BIRTHDAY IS TO CLOSE TO LEAVING FOR EUROPE, wants me to fire my best Friend who is driving tour managing providing our vehicle and IS OUR LIASON WITH EURO PROMOTERS , AND AMERICAN BOOKING AGENTS , DRIVING OUR GEAR DAILY TO REHEARSAL ETC. ALL OF THIS WE AGRRED TO EXCEPT I REFUSED TO FIRE OR STAB OUR FRIEND IN THE BACK AND REFUSED TO NOT HIRE HELP . THE LAST STRAW FOR ME HOWEVER WAS WHEN AFTER A GREAT REHEARSAL, WE ALL PUT OUR HANDS IN AS HE SAID AND AGRREED WE WERE HAPPY AND COOL ,AS SOON AS WE PARTED WAYS HE TEXTED OUR DRIVER TOUR MANAGER FRIEND DEMANDING TO K NOW IF OUR BOOKING AGENT GOT OUR HOTELS IN TEXAS FOR SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST . WHEN HE REPLIED "NO I DID CAUSE WE HAD TO DO IT NOW". MR ISOMS REPLY WAS FUCK YOU , YOU SUCK , I WILL FIND MY OWN WAY . I WAS EXTREMELY ANGRY , AND UPON REALIZING THAT MR ISOM WAS SERIOUS, I HAD TO FIRE HIM . LET IT BE CLEAR, WHAT SHERMAN SAID IN THE INTERVIEW MR ISOM WAS SO UPSET ABOUT WAS TOTALLY INCORRECT. I HAVENT BEEN SOBER FOR 7 YEARS, I ENDED A 7 YEAR BENDER, SOBER NOW FOR 7 MONTHS.I AM IN DENIAL ABOUT NOTHING .THIS IS THE TRUTH. I BELIEVE GARY WANTED TO BE IN THE BAND, BUT DIDNT WANT TO STRUGGLE, OR WORK FOR IT. HE WANTED TO DO THE CUSH EURO DATES FOR THE BIG MONEY AND IGNORE OUR US FANS, CLEARLY DEFINED BY HIS ARROGANT AND LUDICROUS DEMANDS TO CUT THE US TOUR BECAUSE HIS BIRTHDAY 4/20 WAS TOO CLOSE TO DEZ FEST 4/ 27 THE TOUR WAS SLATED TO END ON OR CLOSE TO HIS BDAY. OF COURSE ,WHEN HE SAW HOW MUCH MONEY WE WERE GONNA LOSE HE FLUSHED AND TRIED TO BACKTRACK . WHEN MR ISOM THREW OUT INSULTS CALLING SHERMAN A SPINELESS TWAT, SAYING I AM GREEDY AND ARROGANT AND WE JUST CARE ABOUT THE MONEY , HE IS VERY ACCURATELY DESCRIBING HIMSELF. THIS SO CALLED SPIRITUAL GUY WAS TELLING US IN REHEARSALS THAT HIS SWEET AND LOYAL WIFE WAS OK WITH HIM HAVING SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH OTHER WOMEN ON TOUR AS LONG AS IT WASNT INTERCOURSE.MR ISOM IS ABSOLUTELY THE MOST SELF CENTERED , GREEDY , INCONSIDERATE PERSON I HAVE EVER HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF KNOWING .HE IS ONE OF THE LAZIEST PEOPLE I OR SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE EVER MET. WHY WAS HE FIRED FROM VALKYRIE, PENTAGRAM, SEASONS OF MIST RECORDS ? THIS IS A PERSON WHO ,MARRIED, CONTINUES TO ENGAGE AND FLIRT WITH SINGLE WOMEN ON THE INTERNET WITH SEXUAL INTENT. I AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN WITNESS TO MANY INFIDELITIES IN THE PAST , AND ALSO AS RECENT AS THIS YEAR. { RICHMOND VA WEED IS WEED TOUR. } THE FIRST THING GARY SAID TO ME WHEN WE STARTED REHEARSALS WAS," MY SONG SUN STONED HAS MORE YOU TUBE HITS THAN ANY OF YOUR SONGS. "OBVIOUSLY , MR ISOM IS NOT A TEAM PLAYER. EVERYONE INVOLVED IN OUR CURRENT, GRUELING 40 DATE US VAN TOUR WITH PILGRIM AGREED, GARY WOULD NOT HAVE LASTED , OVER MONEY OR COMFORT ISSUES. THIS IS THE GUY WHO WANTS TO BE AS PROFESSIONAL AS POSSIBLE IN HIS OWN WORDS BUT, WONT CARRY OR LIFT GEAR, BUT DOESNT WANT TO HIRE HELP . I HAVE PERSONALY SEEN HIM TOTALY LOW BALL OR STRAIGHT NOT PAY HIS TECHS AND FRIENDS WHO WOULD WORK FOR HIM. HE IS SAYING HOW HE LOVES SCOTT WEINRICH BUT NOT WINO , SAYING WINO RELEASE SCOTT{ WIENRICH,] IN HIS PATHETIC SNIVELING POSTS I READ TODAY HE CANT EVEN SPELL MY LAST NAME RIGHT. HE MIGHT HAVE WANTED TO BE IN THE BAND, BUT NO ONE I PLAY AND SHARE A STAGE WITH WILL STAB MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY IN THE BACK, DEMAND PEOPLE WORK FOR FREE, AND SLANDER ME . ITS BEEN A LONG ROAD BUT HERE WE ARE.THANKS TO HENRY VASQUEZ WHO ACTUALLY PREDICTED THAT MR ISOM WOULD TRY TO FUCK ME OVER AND DROVE FROM TEXAS TO MD TO LEARN THESE SONGS IN A WEEK. WOULD GARY HAVE DONE THAT_-__
to all the people chiming in calling me names and buying into his bullshit why dont you come to a show and tell me face to face instead of hiding in the safety of facebook
THANKS TO ALL WHO BELIEVE!
WINO APRIL 7 ON TOUR 2014




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I take from that Wino is just as big a cunt as the guy he kicked out of the band and types in all capitals.
 
That hurts my eyes too much to even try reading.

Very sad news about Jason McCash, even more so when it looks like they might have been going to start playing live again.

Where did you hear this? Karl came out and said that with Jason's passing the Gates of Slumber are officially done for good. He had a new band called Wretch, though.
 
I take from that Wino is just as big a cunt as the guy he kicked out of the band and types in all capitals.

I wouldn't go that far but every is entitled to speak after stuff becomes public. I believe the mudslinging began on said "kicked out guy's" page (Gary Isom). I cant read what Gary post because I don't belong to crackbook's spygrid. I don't know either one but I adore Spirit Caravan probably the top retro "heavy" band IMO. I check to see when I can go see them for this reformation. They haven't played since '02. It appears as though my state was skipped due to dates being cut off the US tour and this is mainly due to Gary and that upsets me. My interaction with WINO at Saint Vitus shows has ruled that dude gave me a whiskey shot off the stage in Fort Worth March '13.
 
I wouldn't go that far but every is entitled to speak after stuff becomes public. I believe the mudslinging began on said "kicked out guy's" page (Gary Isom). I cant read what Gary post because I don't belong to crackbook's spygrid. I don't know either one but I adore Spirit Caravan probably the top retro "heavy" band IMO. I check to see when I can go see them for this reformation. They haven't played since '02. It appears as though my state was skipped due to dates being cut off the US tour and this is mainly due to Gary and that upsets me. My interaction with WINO at Saint Vitus shows has ruled that dude gave me a whiskey shot off the stage in Fort Worth March '13.

also all of that being said as far as fans go WINO has been known to not tolerate juggalo behavior from anybody. I don't blame him one bit and when I speak to the guy I come correct with respect. Rockers like that are nearly nonexistent and he is musically of the highest order.
 
Here.

On another note, that Hour of 13 song is actually amazing. Much, much better than the last album. Chad should have taken over vocals long ago.

Oh, well fuck, that would have been awesome for them. Hammer of Doom fest is, like, one of those Euro Fests that I have to witness at least once before I die. Keep it True is on that list as well.

And I totally fucking agree with that Ho13 song. I really dig 333, but that song fucking rules so much and I think Chad's vocals fit amazingly with their sound. It's a lot more eerie and spooky than Phil's.

And part of me doesn't really believe Chad that the band is done. I get the feeling that they will come back, at least for one-off shows or something.
 
I've been to gay to listen to new stuff since being at Days fo the Doomed, but I downloaded the new Capilla Ardiente and it was only OK, hope it turns out better on further listens