Do You Listen To Metal Because It Pumps You Up- And Makes You Angry?

[SculptedCold]

Metal doesn't send the right message? Is this because of the lyrics or the scene or what? First, she doesn't know dick about it, so she cannot hold any sort of valid opinion. Secondly, the intent or 'evilness' of a piece of music that possesses lyrics and is played by identifiably culpable individuals of a band is inextricably linked to those people and that band. They are the source of it.......so does she happen to know under what conditions almost all of The Beatles' 'happy' music was written? What kind of message does that send??

 

[nergal_S]

Wagner, or Paganini were looked at the same way at there time,

but they were still the best in music.

I figure this is what metal is like these days.

 

[Ultimate_Symphony]

I wonder if she thinks that pop music sends the right message. Oh yeah, ''baby I fuckin' love you, I don't want to lose you!'' Seriously, does she think that pop music has a better message than metal? most pop lyrics are pure garbage if you ask me. Metal is definitively related to anger, but to say that metal listeners have emotional problems is pure bullshit. A lot of times metal musicians are not happy with their goverment, people that surround them or *insert whatever reason comes to your mind*, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are fucked up (emotionally speaking). Those are lyrics are written by people that actually think for themselves.

(Note: I'm not saying metal is the only genre with worthy lyrics)

 

[nergal_S]

The metal i listen to is not angry, in fact i dont think i have one metal cd with angry style lyrics.

Bands that i considre angry are like Dark Tranqulity or Soil work.

And i dont like those type of lyrics, or that music.

I listen to bands with more objective lyrics, about fantasy or mythology.

 

[SculptedCold]

interesting, I take it you mean objective as in the myths themselves are sort of always told one way??? fantasy objective though??? fantasy I would believe to be entirely subjective, actually. erm....

 

[Timmeth]

It pumps me up, but I listen 'cause I like the sound of the music.

 

[speed]

If you will allow me- i'd like to fill you guys in on a little more of the situation.

This situation occurred when Whole Lotta Love came on another friends mix cd they had in the cd player. She is a Phd student- not brilliant- but a very very hard worker( one of those girls that does school work all day long- lives for school work). She said I hate Led Zeppelin, they are not my kind of music- I was a little shocked- but I asked her why she didnt like them- and I was met with they produce angry over the top music- which is not her cp of tea. I tried to explain how talented they were- and what good songs they wrote( that werent ripped off- as Zep loved to do), and how it really didnt matter then if they were angry or sent a violent message- because of their talent. She further dug her feet in the sand- and stated she like things she can sing along to, things that uplift her, and the human spirit. She was strangely supported by a number of other students during the conversation. She also stated she hates her husbands music when he plays punk rock. She is quite an idealistic liberal( she is the nicest girl one could meet) -as are all the students that supported her- vegetarian- going to save the world attitude. So, this is where this all comes from.

After reflecting, I was struck by the fact that I started listening to metal- becuase of anger. Any teenager is beset with anger- why the hell would i want to listen to happy music, or pop music- none of it dealt with my adolescent anger.

I also have found, that i need something more than metal musically to satisfy my inner needs. At present, im 24, i no longer listen to only metal. I now listen to world music, ambient, electronic, blues, rock, modern classical, jazz- asd much as I do metal. I need the serenity of ambient music- as much as i need the anger of metal. So, this is the situation I find myself in. I love metal deeply, but I acknowledge that metal isnt everything to me musically- it isnt the alpha and omega of music.

 

[nergal_S]

If you will allow me- i'd like to fill you guys in on a little more of the situation.

This situation occurred when Whole Lotta Love came on another friends mix cd they had in the cd player. She is a Phd student- not brilliant- but a very very hard worker( one of those girls that does school work all day long- lives for school work). She said I hate Led Zeppelin, they are not my kind of music- I was a little shocked- but I asked her why she didnt like them- and I was met with they produce angry over the top music- which is not her cp of tea. I tried to explain how talented they were- and what good songs they wrote( that werent ripped off- as Zep loved to do), and how it really didnt matter then if they were angry or sent a violent message- because of their talent. She further dug her feet in the sand- and stated she like things she can sing along to, things that uplift her, and the human spirit. She was strangely supported by a number of other students during the conversation. She also stated she hates her husbands music when he plays punk rock. She is quite an idealistic liberal( she is the nicest girl one could meet) -as are all the students that supported her- vegetarian- going to save the world attitude. So, this is where this all comes from.

After reflecting, I was struck by the fact that I started listening to metal- becuase of anger. Any teenager is beset with anger- why the hell would i want to listen to happy music, or pop music- none of it dealt with my adolescent anger.

I also have found, that i need something more than metal musically to satisfy my inner needs. At present, im 24, i no longer listen to only metal. I now listen to world music, ambient, electronic, blues, rock, modern classical, jazz- asd much as I do metal. I need the serenity of ambient music- as much as i need the anger of metal. So, this is the situation I find myself in. I love metal deeply, but I acknowledge that metal isnt everything to me musically- it isnt the alpha and omega of music.

Its just her opinion, it doesn’t mean much, she doesn’t under stand music to a level of were she can analyze it, telling by her comments it looks like she views music as entertainment rather than art, and if that’s what makes her happy that’s fine. How ever I am sure she will never find real meaning in any music she listens to. And she can fuck of!



She sounds just like any other idiot.

 

[Ultimate_Symphony]

If you will allow me- i'd like to fill you guys in on a little more of the situation.

This situation occurred when Whole Lotta Love came on another friends mix cd they had in the cd player. She is a Phd student- not brilliant- but a very very hard worker( one of those girls that does school work all day long- lives for school work). She said I hate Led Zeppelin, they are not my kind of music- I was a little shocked- but I asked her why she didnt like them- and I was met with they produce angry over the top music- which is not her cp of tea. I tried to explain how talented they were- and what good songs they wrote( that werent ripped off- as Zep loved to do), and how it really didnt matter then if they were angry or sent a violent message- because of their talent. She further dug her feet in the sand- and stated she like things she can sing along to, things that uplift her, and the human spirit. She was strangely supported by a number of other students during the conversation. She also stated she hates her husbands music when he plays punk rock. She is quite an idealistic liberal( she is the nicest girl one could meet) -as are all the students that supported her- vegetarian- going to save the world attitude. So, this is where this all comes from.

After reflecting, I was struck by the fact that I started listening to metal- becuase of anger. Any teenager is beset with anger- why the hell would i want to listen to happy music, or pop music- none of it dealt with my adolescent anger.

I also have found, that i need something more than metal musically to satisfy my inner needs. At present, im 24, i no longer listen to only metal. I now listen to world music, ambient, electronic, blues, rock, modern classical, jazz- asd much as I do metal. I need the serenity of ambient music- as much as i need the anger of metal. So, this is the situation I find myself in. I love metal deeply, but I acknowledge that metal isnt everything to me musically- it isnt the alpha and omega of music.

As I already stated, she doesn't have enough knowledge about metal to generalize and formulate an opinion (and I bet the other people know shit about metal as well). That's the problem I have with her opinion. Now, I do acknowledge the fact that she probably can't relate to the music at all (she needs something that she can sing along to, there she said it all), but she shouldn't talk about things when she's not versed enough on the subject. She's just the type of person that needs ''happy'' music to feel good about herself and her life, when we on the other hand (i'm generalizing here), need something with more substance (a wider range of lyrical themes) and with more energy to feel good. That's just the way I see it.