GMD Poll: Bolt Thrower's Discography Ranked

[CiG]

Define early here, do you mean better than IVth Crusade and For Victory?

 

[The Ozzman]

Define early here, do you mean better than IVth Crusade and For Victory?

I mean between Realm of Chaos and War Master

 

[Talos of Atmora]

1. ...for Victory
2. Realm of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness
3. Those Once Loyal
4. The IVth Crusade
5. War Master
6. Mercenary
7. Honor Valor Pride
8. In Battle There is No Law!

not a single weak album in their catalog

This. Even their worst album is still good.

 

[The Ozzman]

This. Even their worst album is still good.

Indeed. In my opinion it is their debut that is the worst but I still enjoyed listening to it this morning.

 

[Slayed Necros]

Realm of Chaos basically puts the entire sub-genre of "war metal" to shame. It's a relentlessly ferocious unassailable warmachine. 10/10 album.

 

[Iniquity]

Realm of Chaos basically puts the entire sub-genre of "war metal" to shame. It's a relentlessly ferocious unassailable warmachine. 10/10 album.

Slayed Necros you are right! That album is amazing. My favorite Bolt Thrower.

 

[CiG]

I mean between Realm of Chaos and War Master

Realm of Chaos isn't a "pure" death metal album.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

...lol, of course it is.

 

[CiG]

It has noticeable grindcore elements which were basically dropped by War Master.

Not saying it's not a death metal album, @The Ozzman is the one who added purity as a caveat.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

they never had a proper grindcore sound to them, more along the lines of deathgrind ... which is still basically death metal. Realms of Chaos is death metal top to bottom.

 

[CiG]

I said they had grindcore elements, not that they were "proper" grindcore.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

and i'm telling you that everything in their sound falls under the death metal umbrella. That's like saying Necroticism isnt pure death metal. Or that Scream Bloody Gore, Leprosy, Altars of Madness arent pure death metal because you can hear some thrash influence in there.

 

[Iniquity]

TechnicalBarbarity do you realize that what you said doesn't make what CASSETTEISGOD said wrong? Both of you made valid points so there is no point in having a fight about it.

 

[CiG]

Nobody is fighting, don't needlessly escalate this by saying things like that man.

Those blasting sections stand out in contrast to their usual sound is really all that is being said here. I agree that it's a death metal album, I just happen to also think it has some leftover (death)grind elements.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

yes, it does. He said its not a "pure" death metal album, which it is. b) no one is fighting, so maybe mind your own business? and c)Thank You

edit: Yeah, i'm not questioning that they changed their sound up. Anyone with a working set of ears can hear that.

 

[Krow]

Maybe I'm thinking about it too much but it feels like early death with thrash elements is natural death metal, moreso than deathgrind or death/doom because thrash is where death metal came from.

 

[CiG]

What other 100% death metal album sounds like this does with the way it goes at 1:05?



I don't see why deathgrind or death/doom aren't also therefore considered "pure" death metal, if this is.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Maybe I'm thinking about it too much but it feels like early death with thrash elements is natural death metal, moreso than deathgrind or death/doom because thrash is where death metal came from.

But those elements were not only in early death metal. If mid placed death metal is the only form on "pure death metal" then you guys can scratch 70% of the DM bands off the list as "pure"

To say a certain style of metal isnt pure because it has other influences just doesnt make sense(especially when you consider all sub genres have branched from others). That would be like saying technical thrash isnt pure thrash or technical death metal isnt pure death metal.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

What other 100% death metal album sounds like this does with the way it goes at 1:05?



I don't see why deathgrind or death/doom aren't also therefore considered "pure" death metal, if this is.

Again, that would be like saying "Blessed Are the Sick isnt pure death metal because is has thrashy parts"(more so than that RoC has deathgrind).

Anyway .... RYM, Discogs, etc all have that album as strictly death metal. No secondary tags for deathgrind, grindcore etc.

And also deathgrind = death metal grincore =/= deathmetal

 

[The Ozzman]

How is that not pure death metal but early Autopsy is?