The thread where you talk about non-metal music you like.

Members of the MC5 were literally on FBI lists because they were members of the Black Panther Party. Compared to that, Iggy smearing his body with peanut-butter is child's play. Don't get me wrong, I love The Stooges.

Also, The MC5 were way older than The Stooges and actually were considered the older brother band to them.

"Kick out the jams motherfuckers!"
 
Well actually they were Black Panthers first, until it was suggested by a prominent Black Panther that John Sinclair should start the White Panthers.

Did you ever give much thought to the second meaning to that lyric?
 
Well, this is only my own theory, but after watching so many blaxploitation films, I've come to the conclusion that it's a double meaning against politicians. Kick out the jive ass mothers! Kick the jive ass mothers out of government.
 
Thanks, I drink too often. I respect your opinion on The Stooges by the way, after all it's subjective anyway and it's good that "heavy" hasn't got an objective meaning in music, I think it's more than just sonic.
 
I absolutely used to worship Outsideinside, thought it crushed Vincebus Eruptum personally. These days I'm much more into Leigh Stephen's solo record Red Weather that he made after he left Blue Cheer. It's brilliant.
 
Outsideinside fucked my head up way more at the time, I think it was due to the varying degrees of heaviness going on, in comparison Vincebus Eruptum almost felt like a gimmick. Not that I don't like the album, but it was pretty over the top. I can never listen to Eddie Cochran the same way again!

I can only imagine the reaction at the time of it's release.
 
I prefer Arnold to all of them, especially Stallone even though I enjoyed his Rambo films (especially First Blood, which is a masterpiece to me) and Cobra, but not much can hold a candle to Commando, Terminator, Running Man, Raw Deal, Predator or Conan The Barbarian.

But actually Charles Bronson and Clint Eastwood are my other two favourites of all time, along with Charlton Heston. Chuck Norris is also one of the greats in action.

Personally I also love the early action films of Chow Yun-fat, Sammo Hung and Jackie Chan.
 
I would think you'd say First Blood II is the over the top one? Definitely is the case for me anyway, but yes I have to take Commando over Cobra. Not just because of Arnold but also the awesome cast of villains, Vernon Wells rules man. Mad Max 2!
Honestly, Commando is my childhood.
I grew up on Arnie. Terminator 2 is as far as I can recall my first film as a kid of about 5.

Favourite actors in order include: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Charlton Heston, Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Pam Grier, Helen Mirren, Meryl Streep.

I honestly can't even think of an action film actor more overly masculine than Arnold Schwarzenegger.

PS: Toshiro rules!
 
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No other actor could have nor will ever do Conan any justice, a lot of that has to do with the period it was filmed in too.

I like Samuel L. Jackson, but he was most active during periods of cinema that don't do that much for me in comparison to my favourite periods. The rest I agree with 100% but just not for my top ten. Kurt Russell is also a legend.
 
Kurt Russell's The Thing is my absolute favourite, but I can't go passed Snake Plissken.

I agree about Jackson by the way, his performance in Pulp Fiction is a certified classic performance. Did you like his take on Shaft?
 
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