The thread where you talk about non-metal music you like.

Jay Z is fucking terrible, but I'll let it slide since you included Wu Tang and Nas in there

Well obviously Jay Z pales in comparison to his predecessors, but Reasonable Doubt has some good songs. Plus he has some good lines on early Big L songs before he was known. Jay Z has a certain cleverness to his flow that I like in particular. He is one of the spearheads in modern rap while maintaining a level of integrity and variety.
 
I have only heard Jay pop stuff so I don't know enough about him.From what I have heard from his music I would put him 3 in the most overrated rappers list.The only two I think are more overrated are Eminem and Lil Wayne.
 
^Listen to Do or Die or Crucial Conflict. Great gangsta'rap.

Mr. Brady, Do or Die is a good album by AZ

Here's some good albums to start with -

Nas - Illmatic
Wu Tang - Enter the 36 Chambers
UGK - Ridin' Dirty
GZA - Liquid Swords
Big L - Livestylzes ov Da Poor and Dangerous
Raekwon - Only Built For Cuban Linx
Method Man - Tical
Ol' Dirty Bastard - Return to the 36 Chambers
Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die
2pac - All Eyez on Me
Clipse - Hell Hath no Fury
Black Moon - Enter Da Stage
Cypress Hill - Black Sunday
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
Diamond D - Stunts, Blunts & Hip - Hop
EPMD - Bussiness Never Personal
Gangstarr - Truth of the Moment
Geto Boys - Grip It! On That on Another...
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
Ice Cube - Amerikkka's Most Wanted
Jay Z - Reasonable Doubt
Jeru the Damaja -
KRS-One - Return of Boom Bap
Masta Ace - Disposable Art
Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Scarface - The Diary

All of these are considered essentials
 
I have only heard Jay pop stuff so I don't know enough about him.From what I have heard from his music I would put him 3 in the most overrated rappers list.The only two I think are more overrated are Eminem and Lil Wayne.

Ha I like all of them. I think Eminem is one of the most innovative MC's ever when looking at his early material. If you ever get the chance to listen to his really really old shit (before he had a deal) it has some incredible word play, but never went anywhere because he had Nas's exact flow and style. I like LIl' Wayne because he's fucking ridiculous and can play the American public into making millions, while Immortal Technique can't do shit.

 
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Mr. Brady, Do or Die is a good album by AZ

Here's some good albums to start with -

Nas - Illmatic
Wu Tang - Enter the 36 Chambers
UGK - Ridin' Dirty
GZA - Liquid Swords
Big L - Livestylzes ov Da Poor and Dangerous
Raekwon - Only Built For Cuban Linx
Method Man - Tical
Ol' Dirty Bastard - Return to the 36 Chambers
Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die
2pac - All Eyez on Me
Clipse - Hell Hath no Fury
Black Moon - Enter Da Stage
Cypress Hill - Black Sunday
Snoop Dogg - Doggystyle
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
Diamond D - Stunts, Blunts & Hip - Hop
EPMD - Bussiness Never Personal
Gangstarr - Truth of the Moment
Geto Boys - Grip It! On That on Another...
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
Ice Cube - Amerikkka's Most Wanted
Jay Z - Reasonable Doubt
Jeru the Damaja -
KRS-One - Return of Boom Bap
Masta Ace - Disposable Art
Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Scarface - The Diary

All of these are considered essentials

I will check the stuff I haven't heard yet.The stuff I have heard kick lots of ass:kickass:.
 
Wow you're wrong... to say neither Illmatic nor Liquid Swords is a gangster when both are cited as staples of the genre is retarded, not too mention Represent (illmatic) and Gold (Liquid Swords) are some of the most gangsta's songs I've ever heard. The other four are either big influences on gangster rap or mixtures of conscious and gangsta rap. Do your homework patnah

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