Originally posted by npearce
'Bitches Brew' is a classic and considered "untouchable" for a reason. It's too bad you aren't into this style of music. It provided more originality and atmosphere than anything else in that era or probably any era since. It's fine that you don't like it, but you are probably not qualified to make a judgment about such a masterpiece. Sometimes things are made for the sake of art. Music is an art form, and Miles Davis created some of the most amazing art in the his jazz-fusiona era. Albums like 'Bitches Brew' have become a strong influence on a lot of the doom/drone bands. Sunn 0))) in particular.
Why shouldn't I be qualified to judge this record???? It's not like anyone knows more about music than someone else for some reason. I can comment on Bryan Adams and say it sucks, but so can my mom and she likes him! Everybody got different taste as I've said numerous times! It's not like I don't like jazz or Miles Davis. I have over 1100 records and a good deal of them are jazz! Teddy Wilson's version of "'Round midnight" is among the best three songs I've ever heard!!! Oscar Peterson's "Wheatland" is also a truly amazing song and his "Hymn to freedom" is also really superb! When it comes to Miles Davis, I like some of his stuff. I have 4 of his records, "Porgy & Bess", "Kind of blue", "Sketches of Spain" & "We want Miles" and they're all pretty good (although "Sketches..." only has one song IMO). I just think "Bitches brew" is outright awful! As simple as that. If I don't like it, I don't like it! If you like it, you like it! I can play it for a guy I know who only listens to black metal and he will say it's shit and then I can play it for another guy who thinks it's superb. Music is 100% taste, and I don't understand why I shouldn't be qualified to judge this record!?
To me this record just seemed like Miles pushed the limits of what was experimenting and fusion-like, but it didn't appeal to me. I like to have some structure, melody and catchiness to music, not just a bunch of random notes smacked together for 10 minuttes.
If a person likes "Bitches brew" that's cool by me, just as long as I don't have to listen to as I said. To me it just seems like jazz has somehow become so trendy. "Hey, I just bought this Massive Attack and also this Miles Davis record, and I tell you, it's simply so good, so good I tell you!". I don't know if you know what I mean? At least here in Denmark to be hip, trendy and all that shit you had to listen to Massive Attack a couple of years ago and now you have to listen to naked music instead. It's just like fashion in clothes. It was a fashion to listen to trip hop. Now that's not fashionable anymore, now you have to listen to naked music. If you're really cool you also have to check out some old jazz stuff to "explore the roots". To me it's just corny to be like that. I don't see why I should follow some rules that the fashion dictates. I don't wear some super-expensive clothes and I don't listen to "cool" music. I wear what I feel like and listen to what I feel like! I listen to more or less any kinds of music that existed before the 80's. I have the weirdest records you've never heard about and my biggest idol is Lee Hazlewood. There's nothing "cool" and fashionable about him. I saw him live and more or less everybody there except me was over 30 or 40. My parents know him, but noone on my age know him, unless I've talked about him. You don't control how you feel. If I feel Lee Hazlewood is god I'll listen him and if I feel that "Bitches brew" is utter crap I won't listen to that!
I don't know if I sound like one of those guys "You can't listen to that and you can't listen to, 'cause that's wack because I say so and if you listen to it you're a complete moron" as I hate that shit! People sometimes do that here and everytime you see me come with this "Everybody got different taste" shit.
But anyway I won't mind discussing this as I always like discussing music, especially stuff like this and not just "have you heard that record" and so on.
) I really liked Enthrone Darkness Triumphant,that's the only one I liked and I even have the saw edition.the next one sucked big time(according to me) and haven't heard them since
