In Flames New Album being released in Q2 of 2014 thread

[ciko_gfb]

Blinded By Fear is a little further up on the setlist... At the Motherfucking Gates love those crazy bastards.

I know right? Awesome band. Gonna see them next year in my town

About the new song. I'm listening it second time now but didnt get any feeling. And chorus feels very weird. It feels like they cropped from another song and add it to this song. Gonna listen it few times more.

 

[A88]

IF just has a way to transform what could be just a good solid song to a epic sounding song. Hopefully the song will grow for you two.

Well, without this femalevox/electronics stuff, it wouldn't be a "good solid song". It would be a bad song. Two guitars chugging random chords, dude screaming over.

Now, if they did something like A New Dawn, and then added this female singer and epic electronics, that would be, hands down, the best IF song since 1999/00.

 

[krofius]

Well guess we have divided opinions then. The chugging riffs are very simple but they convey the sound/feeling they are supposed to. Also would be hard to fit all that and make it good in A New Dawn, it's two different soundscapes. And come on, you're saying that even the worst song on Clayman is better than everything post-Clayman? You really prefer let's say ''As the Future Repeats Today'' which is IMO the worst song on the album and for me the song is just okay, it really sounds like Anders vocals is in a higher pitch than he's capable of and the riffs and melodies aren't that special either. You're saying you prefer that song over ALL songs of R2R to SoaPF? I highly doubt that.

Must say about As The Future Repeats Today though, the lyrics are VERY good.

 

[PlainVanilla]

This song is so awesome.

 

[eochaid]

Best guitars until now. Anders denying those who says he cannot scream anymore, but he is still the weak part of the song. Don't really like the chorus, again seems they're aiming for the Eurovision festiival next year. I understand what the guys tried to do with the song but it feels like it's too short for that kind of experiment, like it needs more ambience and changes, maybe an acoustic guitar in the middle, like A New Dawn.

This said. Now i've gotta say that, one of the reasons I love this band is that they always have some songs (in every album I mean) that gives me goose bumps (I don't know if its well expresed this way). But the songs until now mostly left me with the sensation that they could be much more better (still don't know if I'm using the right words).

 

[A88]

Well guess we have divided opinions then. The chugging riffs are very simple but they convey the sound/feeling they are supposed to.

Yeah, in mediocre HC bands.

Also would be hard to fit all that and make it good in A New Dawn, it's two different soundscapes.

Brutal riffing can be interesting. This is just average. Something guitar players do while warming up, or trying out new strings.

And come on, you're saying that even the worst song on Clayman is better than everything post-Clayman? You really prefer let's say ''As the Future Repeats Today'' which is IMO the worst song on the album and for me the song is just okay, it really sounds like Anders vocals is in a higher pitch than he's capable of and the riffs and melodies aren't that special either. You're saying you prefer that song over ALL songs of R2R to SoaPF? I highly doubt that.

Nope, not saying that. There are many songs post-2000 better then half of that album.

BTW ATFRT is my least favorite song of Clayman (it belongs on RTR ).

Just saying that I would like to hear some quality melodic riffing and beautiful harmonized melody, some nice growls, thought out song with acoustic guitars, eerie electronics, female vocals.

I think you don't understand what I don't like about modern IF. They are like Coca-Cola. Sometimes it is warm and shitty (ASOP). Sometimes it is sweet and quite enjoyable (CC), but ultimately part of fast food culture.

I want a good wine, not coke. Something not easily consumed, or not consumed on mass scale, but something that has real value. Something I will remember 10 years from now.

So, if Anders was a good singer, I would like IF doing clean vocals. Just like I love this lady doing chorus. If all their songs had this cool electro thingy, I would love them for doing electro pop, or trance, or ambiental black metal, whatever.

As this is not the case, I'm sticking with my theory that, individual songs and moments aside, IF were a great band prior to going nu/trendy/whatever.

 

[Jester313]

I love ...As the Future Repeats Today. I'll listen to is again just because you guys brought it up.....Ok, listened again and it's still great. I like the tempo that it keeps the whole time, I love Anders' varied and layered screams (which are on most Clayman songs), the lyrics are great, I like how the chorus comes back in right after the solo. Anyway (see what I did there? I'm pretty sure he says, "Anyway" at the end of ATFRT), as for When the World Explodes, I like it a lot. Two listens and I really like it. The first time I heard the chorus it threw me a little bit because it didn't sound like a chorus, just another verse, but I actually like that about it.

 

[DE4life]

I love ...As the Future Repeats Today. I'll listen to is again just because you guys brought it up.....Ok, listened again and it's still great. I like the tempo that it keeps the whole time, I love Anders' varied and layered screams (which are on most Clayman songs), the lyrics are great, I like how the chorus comes back in right after the solo. Anyway (see what I did there? I'm pretty sure he says, "Anyway" at the end of ATFRT), as for When the World Explodes, I like it a lot. Two listens and I really like it. The first time I heard the chorus it threw me a little bit because it didn't sound like a chorus, just another verse, but I actually like that about it.

ATFRT is one of the best songs of Clayman, criminally underrated. Anders vocals do sound a little strained but no worse than anything off Come Clarity. The lyrics are intense, the entire song has a really desperate vibe which fits in perfectly. The short solo is incredible and, well, just everything about it is fantastic. I'd take ATFRT over pretty much anything post-2000. The track has balls, something a lot of the post-2000 stuff lacks.

 

[Clay-Man]

Gotta agree with DE4 about As The Future.

 

[shad0w__]

Yeah, in mediocre HC bands.

I think you don't understand what I don't like about modern IF. They are like Coca-Cola. Sometimes it is warm and shitty (ASOP). Sometimes it is sweet and quite enjoyable (CC), but ultimately part of fast food culture.

I want a good wine, not coke. Something not easily consumed, or not consumed on mass scale, but something that has real value. Something I will remember 10 years from now.

So, if Anders was a good singer, I would like IF doing clean vocals. Just like I love this lady doing chorus. If all their songs had this cool electro thingy, I would love them for doing electro pop, or trance, or ambiental black metal, whatever.

As this is not the case, I'm sticking with my theory that, individual songs and moments aside, IF were a great band prior to going nu/trendy/whatever.

Dude it looks like you don't respect modern IF music (which is absolutely fine as its your opinion) and you pretty much know that the new album will not give you what you want so I don't understand then why you're wasting your time commenting in this thread. Maybe its because you secretly enjoy the new songs even if they are simple or pop or whatever? You can admit it we wont judge

 

[ciko_gfb]

I think you don't understand what I don't like about modern IF. They are like Coca-Cola. Sometimes it is warm and shitty (ASOP). Sometimes it is sweet and quite enjoyable (CC), but ultimately part of fast food culture.

I want a good wine, not coke. Something not easily consumed, or not consumed on mass scale, but something that has real value. Something I will remember 10 years from now.

So, if Anders was a good singer, I would like IF doing clean vocals. Just like I love this lady doing chorus. If all their songs had this cool electro thingy, I would love them for doing electro pop, or trance, or ambiental black metal, whatever.

As this is not the case, I'm sticking with my theory that, individual songs and moments aside, IF were a great band prior to going nu/trendy/whatever.

Dude c'mon.. After Clayman they did 5 albums. (One is coming soon). And they never take a stepback. They won't make another Clayman or Colony. And actually they made it very clear on every album and interview. So why are you waiting for an old IF song, I just dont understand it.

 

[A88]

Dude, I'm not waiting for an old IF song.

 

[cutamerc]

Dang, cool song!

 

[only4theweak187]

I understand what the guys tried to do with the song but it feels like it's too short for that kind of experiment, like it needs more ambience and changes, maybe an acoustic guitar in the middle, like A New Dawn.

I agree 100%.

I like the song all-around, except for the weird soprano opera-style vibrato this chick's doing with her voice in like the last minute or so.

It could've used a slow part in the middle with some kind of acoustic play with strings(or at least some kind of atmospheric effect) and synth keys. Then ramping back into a solo, the last chorus, finally ending with the main guitar riff.

Still really fucking good for modern IF. Album quality will sound nice with the bass on high.

Just wish songs had leading guitar melodies or at least just one SOMEWHERE in any of the new tracks.


0:55-1:10
Who doesn't like a great guitar melody? : ]

 

[Defter]

''As the Future Repeats Today'' not so bad.
On Clayman worse song is "Another Day In Quicksand", only long solo make this song little bit better

 

[krofius]

Another Day In Quicksand is probably my favorite song off of Clayman. Those tremolo riffs are just beautiful, especially the verse one, the solo is also one of their better ones. Bullet Ride probably has my favorite one on Clayman though. Lyrics are also great, and I love the drums in the song as well.

 

[Clay-Man]

''As the Future Repeats Today'' not so bad.
On Clayman worse song is "Another Day In Quicksand", only long solo make this song little bit better

Love that song too. Clayman honestly has no bad points or filler songs. I like the wall of notes and chords, harmonies that song throws at you, and the tremolo picking they don't do too much after the first few albums.

 

[Clay-Man]

Previews of all songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx20J-__SzY

 

[Jester313]

Love that song too. Clayman honestly has no bad points or filler songs. I like the wall of notes and chords, harmonies that song throws at you, and the tremolo picking they don't do too much after the first few albums.

All Clayman songs are really great, though I think Swim is my least favorite. Still a really good song though. Clayman is a really strong album start to finish.

 

[DE4life]

Clayman is 100% solid the entire way through. Start to finish, a real treat for anybody who genuinely enjoys metal. Every song has something different about it, something that stands out and makes it unique. The formula isn't reliant on pop choruses and chugga-chugga riffs. It's really refreshing. Even the more pop-orientated songs (Only For The Weak, Pinball Map) are still fucking awesome. Anyone who dislikes Clayman or any of the songs on it can suck my dick.