In Flames New Album being released in Q2 of 2014 thread

Of course this is only my opinion, but I don't understand how some of you like Ropes from SoAPF but dislike pretty much all songs here which to my ears compared to Ropes, the cleans have improved tremendously. I find Ropes as top3 worst tracks on SoAPF.

There's no song on SC remotely like Ropes :D I think you're just trying to convince yourself it's better than it is. A lot of people did this after ASOP came out, too, myself included.

Seriously, what level of musician would you have to be to play this stuff? How difficult is it to give every song the same basic structure and use very similar riffs throughout? What song would make you stop if you were in a record store or a (metal) club and say 'wow, that's really good' ? What on this album is powerful, unique or inspirational?

There are a couple of passable songs on the album. In Plain View is OK, Everything's Gone is just about acceptable. Realistically though every one of these songs would be considered some of the worst of they were on SOAPF. It's like they took the rejects of that session and recorded them for this album.

Sometimes being a fan isn't about desperately trying to like and enjoy everything the band produces. You have to, at some point, objectively analyse their work and in this instance I see no justification to suggest this is a good album, let alone a great one. People have different music tastes, I understand that, but I would like these 'great' melodies and leads to be pointed out to me, because I don't hear them. There's nothing here they haven't done before, except this time they're doing it worse.

Anders vocals meanwhile are really no better than SOAPF, his screams have hugely deteriorated based on the few he uses on this record and his attempts at clean singing are often in direct contrast with the instruments behind him. The verses of some of these songs are a mess, it's like the band think the chorus is all the need to concern themselves with. And the choruses on this album aren't even that good.
 
I am surprised you think that way. You'll take Ropes over In Plain View? Ropes has very boring verse and the chorus doesn't have any hook or vocal melodies in it really. And the lyrics to top it off aren't among the best either.

You know, i've grown listening to Iron Maiden, Scorpions, Helloween, Deep Purple, etc. So, when I first heard Ropes it was like, wow, a heavy metal song. And I do not agree with you. For me, for my liking, the chorus is good (far better than Plain view), and the lyrics, or the voice melody, have an structure. I cannot find that structure in IPV.

As for the lyrics I don't care that much since Anders do not strugle with them since the time of STYE.

You must understand. I'm not against clean vocals. I', against weak vocals. And in IPV there are just moments on wich the vocals just don't fit with the guitars.

Edit. New Unisonic album, just amazing. Ten thousand times better than SC (remember, it's just my opinion.)
 
If I were to rate the songs it would be

In Plain View 9/10
Everything's Gone 6.5-7/10
Paralyzed 8/10
Through Oblivion 5.5/10
With Eyes Wide Open 6.5/10
Siren Charms 8/10
When the World Explodes 8/10
Rusted Nail 6.5/10
Dead Eyes 5/10
Monsters In The Ballroom 7.5/10
Filtered Truth 7.5/10

Dunno what the average rating that is but I would say that at least half the album I really really like and it would probably grow even more, and I am assuming that I'll like the two bonus tracks a lot as well, since even most of the ''haters'' or whatever you should call them seems to have them as the strongest tracks. Don't think we'll get the bonus tracks until around the release date unless Yagami does us a favor *hint*
 
First comment in 6years and it's 4 words lol, have you been lurking all the time? :D

Yes! :D Thought I'd join in on the action for a change. To be more serious though, there are some good parts here and there, I like In Plain View and Paralyzed, the latter gives me Omnium Gatherum-vibes in the chorus for some reason, if only Anders could shut his stupid mouth or at least growl...
 
Have been listening through the album a few times now and it's absolutely fantastic. Didn't quite get it the first time; too slow, too many cleans etc. But fuck it grows. All the songs are good imo, especially dead eyes was a pleasant surprise after all the shit I've read about it. The vocals are brilliant, both the voice and delivery is very good. This is true, pure N'FlameZ.
 
I never liked Ropes. It was a sign of things to come. Ropes = SC prototype.

Oh, and after like 5-10 spins, I'm getting used to SC. I find it marginally better.
 
Have been listening through the album a few times now and it's absolutely fantastic. Didn't quite get it the first time; too slow, too many cleans etc. But fuck it grows. All the songs are good imo, especially dead eyes was a pleasant surprise after all the shit I've read about it. The vocals are brilliant, both the voice and delivery is very good. This is true, pure N'FlameZ.

Welcome to the good side. We are few but we stand strong against the dark side.
 
The verses of some of these songs are a mess, it's like the band think the chorus is all the need to concern themselves with. And the choruses on this album aren't even that good.

My thoughts :)

btw, somebody mentioned the lyrics, I'm really curious about them and looking forward to the release of official lyrics. I'm pretty sure I heard something like "I can't remember what this guy looks like" in Dead Eyes:) Or maybe it's "what the sky looks like" ? Don't know...
 
I never liked Ropes. It was a sign of things to come. Ropes = SC prototype.

Oh, and after like 5-10 spins, I'm getting used to SC. I find it marginally better.

Are you drunk? What is this blasphemy.

The titletrack might actually have rised a bit, I can't really choose between that and In Plain View as the best track, but the title-track might take the lead just because it sounds so different.
 
Totally. And also the guitars in the verse in Dead Eyes is very reminiscent of Square Nothing verse.

Didn't notice that as first, but when I listened to it again I definitely agree, it sounds very similar. Love when you hear new things in songs every now and then when you listen, those are the songs that you usually will like the longest.
 
Wtf A88 :) I've been listening to it whole day, gave it around 20 spins. No, still same annoying boring crap. In Plain View, Filtered truth still ok, Through Oblivion, and maybe Paralyzed (though vocals are awful in this one and the guitar in chorus is weird) at least not that bad. The rest varies between boring under-average (Rusted Nail, title track, Dead Eyes) and complete shit (With Eyes Wide Open - I'm sorry but what you like about it? it's like cheaper version of Liberation; When the world explodes -no, just no, that verse is terrible and Anders' backing vocals in chorus are his worst effort ever by far; Everything's gone - mindless garbage and I'm pissed with that riff which is copy/paste of Black & white)

Didn't notice that as first, but when I listened to it again I definitely agree, it sounds very similar. Love when you hear new things in songs every now and then when you listen, those are the songs that you usually will like the longest.

Yeah, you're right, it's really similar, but how is that positive? They started ripping off their older stuff, cool.
 
I know it's subjective but I don't understand how you can like Through Oblivion which is probably the most so called poppy track on the album over all the tracks you listed. And Everything's Gone is not a copy paste of Black & White what the fuck are you smoking? The riff in the intro for a few sec is nearly identical yes, but apart from that there's no similarities.

Dead Eyes has gotten a bit better now after 5 spins, now it's a good song. The guitar melodies in the song is beautiful.
 
And Everything's Gone is not a copy paste of Black & White what the fuck are you smoking? The riff in the intro for a few sec is nearly identical yes, but apart from that there's no similarities

He said the riff was identical you screaming diva :D try to read posts properly before jumping all over them.
 
Svářeč;10897271 said:
Wtf A88 :) I've been listening to it whole day, gave it around 20 spins. No, still same annoying boring crap. In Plain View, Filtered truth still ok, Through Oblivion, and maybe Paralyzed (though vocals are awful in this one and the guitar in chorus is weird) at least not that bad. The rest varies between boring under-average (Rusted Nail, title track, Dead Eyes) and complete shit (With Eyes Wide Open - I'm sorry but what you like about it? it's like cheaper version of Liberation; When the world explodes -no, just no, that verse is terrible and Anders' backing vocals in chorus are his worst effort ever by far; Everything's gone - mindless garbage and I'm pissed with that riff which is copy/paste of Black & white)



Yeah, you're right, it's really similar, but how is that positive? They started ripping off their older stuff, cool.

I don't know how you can rip off your own material lol, but isn't that what many people are screaming for? I would imagine that if there is similarities to some older stuff, those said people would be happy. I think it's cool that you can hear similarities to older tracks and it feels nostalgic in a way.
 
I don't know how you can rip off your own material lol, but isn't that what many people are screaming for? I would imagine that if there is similarities to some older stuff, those said people would be happy. I think it's cool that you can hear similarities to older tracks and it feels nostalgic in a way.

It's a bad chugging riff that evokes 0 emotion, and to boot we've already heard it before, in a song that was actually decent. No thanks.
It's a minor issue in the grand picture though.

This album has a LOT of similar riffs btw, which was also a problem with SOAPF.
A lot of the verse riffs can be described as simple, oscillating patters. It's rather interesting.