The relation between Racism and Metal
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Norsemaiden
barbarian
Arab saying "I against my brother, my brother and I against our cousin, and my cousin and I against the foreigner". This sums up the natural phenomenon of "ethnic nepotism" quite well.
Blood is thicker than water. It is no good arguing there is as much sense loving your children as loving some extremely distantly related person's children. If you took genetic interest out of the equation, then there would be no reason for you (and almost all living creatures) to feel so familyist. But genes are key to this.
Any White person who says they love the White race really means that they love only those who share their vision, and not those who actively work against them or who disgust them in some important way. It is a generalisation. Those who act and look most like us normally share proportionately more genes with us, so our feelings of genetic investment in their welbeing (subconscious) make us care about them. The exception to this is those who have warped instincts through some kind of mental condition or the domesticating effects of being bred in a protective civilisation, which cushions generations from being purged by natural selection.
Blood is thicker than water. It is no good arguing there is as much sense loving your children as loving some extremely distantly related person's children. If you took genetic interest out of the equation, then there would be no reason for you (and almost all living creatures) to feel so familyist. But genes are key to this.
Any White person who says they love the White race really means that they love only those who share their vision, and not those who actively work against them or who disgust them in some important way. It is a generalisation. Those who act and look most like us normally share proportionately more genes with us, so our feelings of genetic investment in their welbeing (subconscious) make us care about them. The exception to this is those who have warped instincts through some kind of mental condition or the domesticating effects of being bred in a protective civilisation, which cushions generations from being purged by natural selection.
Seditious
GodSlayer
I like that explanation.
what about loving your children less than someone elses children if yours are mixed race (rape, or drunken mistake, or you didn't know their family tree what fraction what race they were and when you slept with them you thought they were 'pure', or whatever the case). favoring your family over strangers makes perfect sense, but favoring anyone who looks white, or blonde, etc seems like a matter which isn't supported.
Seditious
GodSlayer
what if they don't want to be separated from you? I mean, you're basically saying 'sorry, my pals and dogs must be tied up outisde, they're not allowed to come in my store with you, even if they are your best friend.'
why's it a failure? why does its failure mean not fine tuning but utterly abandoning it?
it's bigoted if you think their blackness, or lack of white man genes create those cultural ways, as if a black man raised in a white mans world would turn upside down their world with his inhuman compulsions from the genetic level... sure there are differences in cultures, but kill everything but the white people and there are still differences between the cultures and yet we're all the same race, so I don't see how you can blame race for that, and thus it would be bigoted to do so.
Norsemaiden
barbarian
If you get a large number of people coming in from a different culture it certainly does turn the society "upside down" in that it hugely changes that country. Consider America. When the European settlers came in it changed life irretrievably for the American Indians. Genes have a part to play in this, in that culture is a product of the inner nature of the people creating it. The term "inhuman compulsions" is uncalled for. It is seriously doubtful that anyone here thinks Blacks have anything inhuman about them - simply differences.
Regarding the comment about a mixed race child. How much love the mother would feel would depend on the relative racial purity of the parent and their state of mind - whether they have strong instincts or are impaired in their ability to recognise kin. If the mother had deliberately become pregnant with the man of the other race, it could also be that she was someone with a lot of defective genes for disease, and that there was a subconscious urge to outbreed, thus creating some hybrid vigour. Thanks to modern medicine more and more people are born and survive to spread physical weakness - and this is a complicating factor. The hybrid vigour is only effective for one generation, after that the diseased recessives will more easily be matched up again in the subsequent generations and there will be more disease than ever.
Very limited amounts of outbreeding can be accomodated in the population, but so much is happening now that it is causing racial distinctiveness to be lost.
This mass mixing cannot be considered to be "evolution" because evolution involves cladogenesis - the splitting of from a species of further new species by the new kind becoming more refined and specialised - like a tree with more and more branches appearing and braches coming out from branches. The race mixing sets evolution back in a sense, since civilisation certainly would collapse from the effects of it (the inevitable loss of kin-recognition based altruism to everyone in the community being the major reason). Then we will have entered the age of annihilation wars, and this would have to continue for thousands of years - until the mixed up mongrels had once again been subjected to sufficient cladogenesis to have become distinctive groups once again.
A great deal of war and suffering, only to end up back where we started. Humans can be relied upon to make the worst decisions - so this is how it will be.
Seditious
GodSlayer
you missed my point.
it wasn't the fact that Europeans were white that turned the native american society upside down was it. it wasn't that 'if only you had darker skin our society would have been fine, but your whiteness ruined everything!'
So what is this inner nature which would surface if we put one of each in some other races culture...
so in short, you would love someone elses child more than your own if, for whatever reason, you ended up with an 'impure' 'racially inferior' child?
Norsemaiden
barbarian
Dear derbeder,
One properly loves one’s race especially, just as one loves one’s family especially. They each respectively form a part of an interlocking communally-mediated form of living art, in the same manner that the different subspecies of dog have been bred into living art forms. The four major races of the world represent cognitive specialties that are valuable, and the bodily forms they produce uniquely beautiful and worth preserving.
“Skin colour” is an absurd simplification. Nothing in reality is simple in that way. In the faces of my racial kinsmen I see my face reflected, just as a parent sees the faces of his or her own parents reflected in the faces of their children. There is a linguistic-like continuity there that acts like shorthand for the deeper cognitive differences in the person’s mind. “Like attracts like” and just as men seek fraternity with other men, women sorority with women, children with children, teenagers with teenagers, professionals with professionals, working class with working class, so do races naturally and beneficially seek solidarity with their racial like, whether one admits it or not. Most white people will be more comfortable living, playing, and working around other white people, and the same goes for blacks and every other race. To deny this is based on a degraded “one world” ideology one has been brainwashed by from birth, that fetishes money, flesh, and “being nice” over being truthful, in the process ignoring our humanity.
White people built Western Civilisation and nearly all it entails, and they form the most natural patriots of it. We are the torch-bearers for rational hygiene, Romance, and futurism that will propel this species to the stars. If the white race goes, Western civilisation goes with it! It is in everyone’s best interest to become a racialist, and fight for the existence of their own race as a unique cognitive specialty with a special mission to fulfill. The red race still knows this, and the white race is struggling toward a realisation of it. Why fight the truth?
Narziss
* * *
Dear Seditious,
Defining Agape as “love of humanity” begs the question of why, as in “what is uniquely human worth loving?” The answer is, as you allude to, self-conscious Reason, the powering emotion of which is Agape, or love of Reason. Together these form the cognitive faculty that allows us to discover, transmit, and culturally assimilate truthful principles of nature, that let us master ourselves and the universe to good ends. One doesn’t work without the other – Reason alone becomes merely compassless will; Agape without Reason is blind. “Caritas” was translated as “charity” in the New Testament, and essentially means the same thing as Agape. It is not to be conflated with “charis” which the divine sexual Mother-Love associated with the sacred prostitutes of Babylon.
What else would we call it? One takes joy in a new girlfriend because her incipient relationship with you promises love. Some people can find such joy in the world at large as promising a similar kind of wonderful relationship.
Society is insane today primarily because it does not recognise, nor try to foster, the humanity – the cognitive faculty – in its members. Children are “trained for careers” in the process attempting to kill everything inside of them that is truly creative and capable of loving other people sacredly. Our society is based on a love of shit – money – and degrades all flesh and mind to the level of shit. It does not even recognise the existence of mind as a meaningful concept – witness the schizophrenic psychiatric establishment that to this day lacks a cogent and universally accepted theory of mind.
The joy of being human is the fun of solving genuine problems of cognition, in order to improve oneself and the rest of society and the world. Without that joy, we are nothing but malicious apes implicitly worthy of the extermination that the Deep Ecologists, ALF, ELF, and other misanthropes pray to come to us.
On whites, I find happiness in the metaphorical beauty of my race, seeing my face and the faces of my family reflected in them. I take a metaphorical meaning from my white complexion as calling me to be “fair” in all my dealings with the world, and in the blue eyes of woman and children I see the terrible sadness admixed with that wondrous optimism that makes me want to fight for them, and fight fair to my dying breath. This isn’t flesh-fetishism, this is artistic inspiration.
A mixed-race person has a right to be a racial patriot, just as everyone does. It is a fundamental human right. But being of a mixture, he belongs to a difference race than I, and his destiny is necessarily more closely-knit and cosmopolitan in flavour. I do not fear mixture, I am sad at mixture, because it is a dilution of the cognitive specialisation that each race has been sculpted by climate and evolution to embody, and as such a race-mixer is usually someone who is neurotically blocked from loving his or her own race. There are true adventurers, of course, people who are natural “mental outsiders” who will only find happiness with aliens. As such, a tiny amount of racing mixing is not a problem, and is even healthy. But, it is nothing to be entered into lightly, and it does not make any sound argument that “everyone blending together” is healthy for society or for individuals.
Modern Feminised culture uses the words “racism,” “racial profiling,” “anti-Semitism,” and “Political Correctness” as tools to prevent white, heterosexual men from becoming self-conscious and organising to stop the destruction of their race, culture, language, religion, nation-states, and Western Civilisation itself. Black people can get away with vituperous anti-white Rap music, they can form the Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam, Jews can set up innumerable organisations to serve their perceived interests, and so forth, but white people are not allowed to so organise without the expectation of social censure because they are promoting “hate.”
Well, I hate like you wouldn’t believe! I don’t hate people, but I hate problems, and see no one working to solve these problems, including the tremendous problems of race. And the reason those problems can’t be solved is because few people are thinking as humans instead of as animals, and so people can’t possibly frame the issue of race on its proper, Artistic level, rather than the revolting level of mere flesh.
“Racism” and “Anti-Racism” are both bullshit, Politically Correct phrases designed to get you to (1) stop thinking, and (2) attack white people who express racial patriotism. It is the Politically Correct (spare me from such abominable words!) who are the masters of distortion and self-deception, not thoughtful racial patriots such as myself.
I hope I have answered your questions.
Narziss
* * *
Dear Jrgen,
Jews are largely admixed with white blood and so in fleshly terms they are phenotypically white, but as a whole they form their own race, a rather interesting and unique one, with a characteristic, culturally and evolutionarily-reinforced way of thinking.
Arabs are also mixtures, being descendents in part from Aryans if not other white subraces, but they have stabilised into their own entity, more or less. Ancient Babylon and Assyria were probably white, but no more.
Cheers,
Narziss
One properly loves one’s race especially, just as one loves one’s family especially. They each respectively form a part of an interlocking communally-mediated form of living art, in the same manner that the different subspecies of dog have been bred into living art forms. The four major races of the world represent cognitive specialties that are valuable, and the bodily forms they produce uniquely beautiful and worth preserving.
“Skin colour” is an absurd simplification. Nothing in reality is simple in that way. In the faces of my racial kinsmen I see my face reflected, just as a parent sees the faces of his or her own parents reflected in the faces of their children. There is a linguistic-like continuity there that acts like shorthand for the deeper cognitive differences in the person’s mind. “Like attracts like” and just as men seek fraternity with other men, women sorority with women, children with children, teenagers with teenagers, professionals with professionals, working class with working class, so do races naturally and beneficially seek solidarity with their racial like, whether one admits it or not. Most white people will be more comfortable living, playing, and working around other white people, and the same goes for blacks and every other race. To deny this is based on a degraded “one world” ideology one has been brainwashed by from birth, that fetishes money, flesh, and “being nice” over being truthful, in the process ignoring our humanity.
White people built Western Civilisation and nearly all it entails, and they form the most natural patriots of it. We are the torch-bearers for rational hygiene, Romance, and futurism that will propel this species to the stars. If the white race goes, Western civilisation goes with it! It is in everyone’s best interest to become a racialist, and fight for the existence of their own race as a unique cognitive specialty with a special mission to fulfill. The red race still knows this, and the white race is struggling toward a realisation of it. Why fight the truth?
Narziss
* * *
Dear Seditious,
Defining Agape as “love of humanity” begs the question of why, as in “what is uniquely human worth loving?” The answer is, as you allude to, self-conscious Reason, the powering emotion of which is Agape, or love of Reason. Together these form the cognitive faculty that allows us to discover, transmit, and culturally assimilate truthful principles of nature, that let us master ourselves and the universe to good ends. One doesn’t work without the other – Reason alone becomes merely compassless will; Agape without Reason is blind. “Caritas” was translated as “charity” in the New Testament, and essentially means the same thing as Agape. It is not to be conflated with “charis” which the divine sexual Mother-Love associated with the sacred prostitutes of Babylon.
What else would we call it? One takes joy in a new girlfriend because her incipient relationship with you promises love. Some people can find such joy in the world at large as promising a similar kind of wonderful relationship.
Society is insane today primarily because it does not recognise, nor try to foster, the humanity – the cognitive faculty – in its members. Children are “trained for careers” in the process attempting to kill everything inside of them that is truly creative and capable of loving other people sacredly. Our society is based on a love of shit – money – and degrades all flesh and mind to the level of shit. It does not even recognise the existence of mind as a meaningful concept – witness the schizophrenic psychiatric establishment that to this day lacks a cogent and universally accepted theory of mind.
The joy of being human is the fun of solving genuine problems of cognition, in order to improve oneself and the rest of society and the world. Without that joy, we are nothing but malicious apes implicitly worthy of the extermination that the Deep Ecologists, ALF, ELF, and other misanthropes pray to come to us.
On whites, I find happiness in the metaphorical beauty of my race, seeing my face and the faces of my family reflected in them. I take a metaphorical meaning from my white complexion as calling me to be “fair” in all my dealings with the world, and in the blue eyes of woman and children I see the terrible sadness admixed with that wondrous optimism that makes me want to fight for them, and fight fair to my dying breath. This isn’t flesh-fetishism, this is artistic inspiration.
A mixed-race person has a right to be a racial patriot, just as everyone does. It is a fundamental human right. But being of a mixture, he belongs to a difference race than I, and his destiny is necessarily more closely-knit and cosmopolitan in flavour. I do not fear mixture, I am sad at mixture, because it is a dilution of the cognitive specialisation that each race has been sculpted by climate and evolution to embody, and as such a race-mixer is usually someone who is neurotically blocked from loving his or her own race. There are true adventurers, of course, people who are natural “mental outsiders” who will only find happiness with aliens. As such, a tiny amount of racing mixing is not a problem, and is even healthy. But, it is nothing to be entered into lightly, and it does not make any sound argument that “everyone blending together” is healthy for society or for individuals.
Modern Feminised culture uses the words “racism,” “racial profiling,” “anti-Semitism,” and “Political Correctness” as tools to prevent white, heterosexual men from becoming self-conscious and organising to stop the destruction of their race, culture, language, religion, nation-states, and Western Civilisation itself. Black people can get away with vituperous anti-white Rap music, they can form the Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam, Jews can set up innumerable organisations to serve their perceived interests, and so forth, but white people are not allowed to so organise without the expectation of social censure because they are promoting “hate.”
Well, I hate like you wouldn’t believe! I don’t hate people, but I hate problems, and see no one working to solve these problems, including the tremendous problems of race. And the reason those problems can’t be solved is because few people are thinking as humans instead of as animals, and so people can’t possibly frame the issue of race on its proper, Artistic level, rather than the revolting level of mere flesh.
“Racism” and “Anti-Racism” are both bullshit, Politically Correct phrases designed to get you to (1) stop thinking, and (2) attack white people who express racial patriotism. It is the Politically Correct (spare me from such abominable words!) who are the masters of distortion and self-deception, not thoughtful racial patriots such as myself.
I hope I have answered your questions.
Narziss
* * *
Dear Jrgen,
Jews are largely admixed with white blood and so in fleshly terms they are phenotypically white, but as a whole they form their own race, a rather interesting and unique one, with a characteristic, culturally and evolutionarily-reinforced way of thinking.
Arabs are also mixtures, being descendents in part from Aryans if not other white subraces, but they have stabilised into their own entity, more or less. Ancient Babylon and Assyria were probably white, but no more.
Cheers,
Narziss
Nationalism is not racism. Racism is an emotional reaction of hatred, and it's icky. Nationalism is the knowledge that for culture to form, everyone has to be on the same page in heritage, language and values. Racism to me is a byproduct of multiculturalism, and not very useful.
Blacks commit more crime than whites, by far.
Whites out score blacks on standardized IQ testing, by far.
Why should I just ignore this?
Whites out score blacks on standardized IQ testing, by far.
Why should I just ignore this?
Armageddon's Child
New Metal Member
Or rather, multiculturalism is a byproduct of racism, which is the bastard child of liberal democracy and market capitalism.
I think you may have just described a kid with ADD. The market on extemism and racism has not been cornered by the right-wing.
Can you imagine a member of the Black Panthers singing along to Slayer or Bathory?
