The stupidity in nu-metal

BurzumBeast

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Has anybody noticed how nu-metal bands mindlessly throw words into their songs? More often then not, some nu-metal idiot will shout "fuck" for no reason in the middle of a song. I take no offense to profanity, and I actually take pride in being quite a pottymouth myself. As for what annoys me in this, is that it is thrown in there for no reason. The vocalist might as well be shouting "toyota" or "lawn chair" because the yelling of "fuck" has no relevance to the song whatsoever. The word "fuck," and other forms of the word, however, have been used tastefully in songs before. For instance, in Emperor's "The Loss and Curse of Reverence," the closing line is "you and this world ripped my fucking heart out again and again and again...." This is one of the many reasons why true metal fans will always have more class than nu-metal fans.
 
It's cos their 14 year old fans like lots a swear words to piss off their parents. :)

Lyrics which actually make sense and mean somethig are of minor consideration.

It's up to us to see to it that these young nu-metal fans see the light (or should that be dark :) ) And move onto real music before they follow the next mindless trend.

And whats with that rapping shite?

MindMorgue.
 
Originally posted by MindMorgue


It's up to us to see to it that these young nu-metal fans see the light (or should that be dark :) ) And move onto real music before they follow the next mindless trend.


MindMorgue.


why should we even waste our time with that? If someone is interested I will show them the ropes, but if not, then I won't even waste my time. There is no duty involved....
 
Originally posted by The Wanderer



why should we even waste our time with that? If someone is interested I will show them the ropes, but if not, then I won't even waste my time. There is no duty involved....

Because the bands deserve all the support we can give them, and the more fans they have the more money they will make so they can concentrate on music more, and will be able to tour more so I can go and see them.

Being part of the underground is all very well, and I don't wanna have to go to the NEC to see the bands I like, but without some support there won't be as much good music for me to listen to.

MindMorgue.
 
This is very true about the bands needing out support. If they aren't making enough money from the band to concentrate on the music, touring will probably not happen. If we want our favorite bands to continue tour (even though some of my favorite bands will never play a live show again) and put out albums, they need all the support they can get.
 
You're absolutely right!!!
Their motherfucking fuck profucks my fucking earfuck, so I fuck their fucking interfucking fotherfucking fuck!!! They are just fuck-us, fuck, fuck, fuck trillion times fuck!!! That's my opinion.
Anthony Arcturus:mad:
 
Originally posted by BurzumBeast
This is one of the many reasons why true metal fans will always have more class than nu-metal fans.

I totally agree with you about the use of "fuck", as also about the ultralow quality of most of the nu-bands (I personally think Slipknot however is the musically angriest band existing, no matter if they fake it or not. And no matter that they're fucking idiots :loco: ), but I had hoped I'd never again have to face this "true/false"-thing.

I think It's one of the most childish thoughts ever.
 

Nu-metal is all about making teens and pre-teens feel nobody understands them and the cursing is there to make it obscene, so that they feel it's something which is their own, because it's always been hard to market obnoxiousness.
Nu-metal makes me want to throw up. I can handle a fair bit of obscenity in lyrics, but it's as stated before, the pointless cursing which gets to me (aside from the extremely poor quality music).

They shame the metal-scene with the stupidity and lack of any form of sophistication (or civilisation might be more like it).

 
Originally posted by The Wanderer
why should we even waste our time with that? If someone is interested I will show them the ropes, but if not, then I won't even waste my time. There is no duty involved....

How very Satanic of you. How does enlightening the masses benefit you in any way, right?

I say nu-metal exists to give us something to mock and something for the lower age spectrum of the "herd" something to piss their parents off with while Addidas, Nike, and FUBU still collect their dollars. It's a minor example of the society of the masses. It won't be around long, don't worry, but will be replaced with something equally mindless. It's all irrelivant. It helps to remember that.
 
Jesus christ, DONT get me started on nu-metal (why does it even have the word "Metal" in the name???????)

I mean, slipknot are just trying to be trendy thrash metal, it sucks, and its even worse when in an interview Kerry King said he quite admired slipknot????

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH EVERYONE, HAS EVERYONE LOST THERE SENCES!!!!

Grrrrr :mad:
 
I would never dare make such bad music...in fear of hurting someone's esthetic feelings....but these nobodys from a lost farm in No-man's-Land have done it anyway, releasing the most stupid album ever! I admire them so much for making themselves an easy target for being laughed at as bad composers (does that shit can even be considered COMPOSED? Composted maybe...)

Well Kerry King admires Slipknot cause a band so talentless hides the fact that Slayer is running on little fuel right now...
 
Thespawned said:
I mean, slipknot are just trying to be trendy thrash metal, it sucks, and its even worse when in an interview Kerry King said he quite admired slipknot????

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH EVERYONE, HAS EVERYONE LOST THERE SENCES!!!!

Grrrrr :mad:
Slipknot are not thrash metal at all, and I don't know wat the fuck was with kerry king when he said that.
 
Slipknot are just overproduced powerchords with a lot of distortion.
The day Slipknot has anything to do with thrash is the day i see Metallica releasing a good album again :p
And Kerry King is the Lars Ulrich of Slayer, so it doesnt suprise me that he likes Slipknot.
 
Every aspect of this topic has already been covered in this thread, and various other threads. Let's discuss good metal, instead of whining about crap that isn't worth our time.
 
BurzumBeast said:
Has anybody noticed how nu-metal bands mindlessly throw words into their songs? More often then not, some nu-metal idiot will shout "fuck" for no reason in the middle of a song. I take no offense to profanity, and I actually take pride in being quite a pottymouth myself. As for what annoys me in this, is that it is thrown in there for no reason. The vocalist might as well be shouting "toyota" or "lawn chair" because the yelling of "fuck" has no relevance to the song whatsoever. The word "fuck," and other forms of the word, however, have been used tastefully in songs before. For instance, in Emperor's "The Loss and Curse of Reverence," the closing line is "you and this world ripped my fucking heart out again and again and again...." This is one of the many reasons why true metal fans will always have more class than nu-metal fans.

Y'know, I find it funny how you mention all the fuck lyrics and their irrelevance etc. Now, I agree with you to a certain extent...of course there are some bands that throw in swears for no reason....the biggest culprit being Staind. (slow, heavy melancholic rock....with the odd very tasteless swear thrown in here and there for no benefit whatsoever).

But hey, didn't ever occur to you that they're actually there for a reason? The arrangement of swearing might seem pointless to you, but as said before, the swears are there to serve and complete the purpose of a rebellious, angsty (however faux) feel. Swearing in nu-metal is an essential ingredient; it's part of what it's about.

Given the extent to which you speak-out about the overuse of lyrics.....I find it curious as to why you don't mention, ummmm, gore metal, pornogrind, deathgrind, or brutal death lyrics???? You think 'mindlessly throw'ing lyrics into music is unique to nu-metal, and a basis for getting on your pedestal?? Do you see any particular parallels in the meaningless overabuse of lyrical cliche when you compare standard nu-metal to standard extreme metal? Hmmm, I sure as hell do!!! Sounds like ignorant, snobby hypocrisy to me!!

Get a brain and think about things before you bash them.
 
Thespawned said:
Jesus christ, DONT get me started on nu-metal (why does it even have the word "Metal" in the name???????)

I mean, slipknot are just trying to be trendy thrash metal, it sucks, and its even worse when in an interview Kerry King said he quite admired slipknot????

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH EVERYONE, HAS EVERYONE LOST THERE SENCES!!!!

Grrrrr :mad:

I'd prefer Kerry King to give props to Slipknot over appearing in a Sum 41 video to play a solo...*shrugs*...whatever.
 
SculptedCold said:
Y'know, I find it funny how you mention all the fuck lyrics and their irrelevance etc. Now, I agree with you to a certain extent...of course there are some bands that throw in swears for no reason....the biggest culprit being Staind. (slow, heavy melancholic rock....with the odd very tasteless swear thrown in here and there for no benefit whatsoever).

But hey, didn't ever occur to you that they're actually there for a reason? The arrangement of swearing might seem pointless to you, but as said before, the swears are there to serve and complete the purpose of a rebellious, angsty (however faux) feel. Swearing in nu-metal is an essential ingredient; it's part of what it's about.

Given the extent to which you speak-out about the overuse of lyrics.....I find it curious as to why you don't mention, ummmm, gore metal, pornogrind, deathgrind, or brutal death lyrics???? You think 'mindlessly throw'ing lyrics into music is unique to nu-metal, and a basis for getting on your pedestal?? Do you see any particular parallels in the meaningless overabuse of lyrical cliche when you compare standard nu-metal to standard extreme metal? Hmmm, I sure as hell do!!! Sounds like ignorant, snobby hypocrisy to me!!

Get a brain and think about things before you bash them.


You make a valid point and for anyone who listens to Myrkskog they're as death/black metal as it gets great band as well..but lyrically probably one of the worst at it...lots of irrelevant cursing.