The "What Are You Doing This Moment" Thread

[cookiecutter]

I went to high school with someone who had a nearly identical mentality toward drugs. He's on his way to jail now. Want to guess why?

:zombie: I hope I have more self control. I do think most drugs should be legalized though.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

:zombie: I hope I have more self control. I do think most drugs should be legalized though.

Only the ones that don't cause a physical addiction.

 

[Matt]

Only the ones that don't cause a physical addiction.

Legalized for medical purposes, maybe. But otherwise there is no reason to just randomly legalize them... they do lead to other things.

Complete abstinence tends to breed a lack of self control after some time.

This is true with some people. I've tried it once and wasn't really that impressed. I'm also not comfortable with temporarily altering my mind.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Legalized for medical purposes, maybe. But otherwise there is no reason to just randomly legalize them... they do lead to other things.

Thats a load of horseshit.

Weed is probably safer then alchhol, because if your high, chances are your not going get in random fights and car accidents.

Your probably more likely to snort coke with a bottle of Jack Daniels than a joint.

 

[Matt]

Thats a load of horseshit.

Weed is probably safer then alchhol, because if your high, chances are your not going get in random fights and car accidents.

Your probably more likely to snort coke with a bottle of Jack Daniels than a joint.

Well ok fine, but you still haven't given me a reason why the should be legalized. It's obvious that weed doesn't impair you as much as alcohol but that's irrelevant. It's also said to be a gateway drug.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Well ok fine, but you still haven't given me a reason why the should be legalized. It's obvious that weed doesn't impair you as much as alcohol but that's irrelevant. It's also said to be a gateway drug.

And snake oil is said to cure cancer. Whats your point? They have no actual proof.

It would be better to legalize it because:
a) It's damn easy to grow it yourself
b) Dealers usually cut it with more harmful drugs. If legalized, dealers would no longer be imperitive because plenty of people would have legal acess to it.
c) It's far more healthy for you than tobacco, and millions of people legally suck that shit back

 

[cookiecutter]

Well ok fine, but you still haven't given me a reason why the should be legalized. It's obvious that weed doesn't impair you as much as alcohol but that's irrelevant. It's also said to be a gateway drug.

The gateway theory is not really scientifically valid, as studies have proved inconclusive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_drug). I think drugs should be legalized* so they can be controlled and taxed like alcohol and tobacco. It's clear people will take drugs whether they are legal or not, but if they are legal, the power is in the hands of the government instead of criminals.

*Except meth and co. That stuff is just too dangerous and ruins you. I am mainly aiming this towards pot, hallucinogens, and other lesser stuff.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

the power is in the hands of the government instead of criminals.

Whats the difference?

 

[Zephyrus]

And I'm sure they would describe their lives as total shit, but we wouldn't know that from our perspective.

 

[Vilden]

1) It's up to an individual to decide what they want to do to his/her body and mind. Seriously. Putting ANYONE in jail for doing nothing but using a drug is absurd.

I generally agree but when it drives people to commit crimes or being hospitalized because of the drug it is the tax payers problem too.

2) Getting rid of the criminal infrastructure behind drug sale will stop a shitload of violent crimes from happening, and generally make cities a better place to live.

This is probably true.

3) The argument that addicts will do anything to anyone to get their fix is pretty flawed, since if that were the case there would be a lot more violent robberies and lootings over tobacco.

You can't compare nicotine with hard opiates in addiction sense. Try kicking heroin cold turkey when you are physically addicted. You can end up in the emergency ward because of the withdrawal syndromes. If you aren't dead set on quitting you WILL do anything to get your fix.

4) Even if legalisation of drugs results in more overall addicts, it's entirely conceivable that many of those people will go on to live content lives with adequate access to treatment and/or supply of their drug. Plus, those people won't have to worry about dangerous contaminants in their drugs at the hands of shady dealers/mixers.

The problem though is that you are hard pressed to live a normal life if you are really addicted to a drug, because you are high all the time and can't work and get no money and then the downward spiral begins even if the drugs are legalized. I mean there are still alchoholics with miserable lives.

One interesting point though about legalization is that most drugs would drop in price alot if the goverment doesn't handle it totally wrong, so alot of the money case for addicts wouldn't be as hard. On the other hand that could lead to alot more people trying it and then eventually getting addicted.

 

[panzerfaust666]

How could an addict's life be overall better than a non-addict? that is retarded. Prove it then.

 

[mutantllama]

Went out to eat. The food was good. Then I opened some presents. Got a Zeppelin hoodie, magic cards and some cash.

 

[panzerfaust666]

oooooh yeah
happy birthday bud

 

[mutantllama]

Thanks man.

*edit* Is it just me or is my post count going down? Really, I swear it was just at 929 and now it's at 928. I think I'm seeing things.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Personally, I believe all drugs should eventually be legalised.

1) It's up to an individual to decide what they want to do to his/her body and mind. Seriously. Putting ANYONE in jail for doing nothing but using a drug is absurd.

Though I generally agree with drugs being legalized (at least ones that aren't horribly fuck-you-up style as CC said), drugs often affect more than just the people using them. But really this discussion doesn't belong here. Can we get back on topic...?

 

[Zephyrus]

The positive effects of a drug aren't worth being controlled by it.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Ahem...

 

[Zephyrus]

In the 3rd floor lounge on a friend's wireless signal, watching Harry Potter 5 with a bunch of friends.

 

[Pessimism]

Harry Potter sucks; I hope you feel bad watching it.

 

[Zephyrus]

To be honest I'm paying more attention to posting here than to the movie. Helps that I've already seen it.