The "What Are You Doing This Moment" Thread

If you've been watching UFC since the no holds barred days then you will remember boxers being absolutely schooled in the early days by BJJ practitioners and wrestlers. Your point about footwork and timing being huge is well made, but I would also add that the most important thing in combat sports is avoiding finding yourself in a vulnerable situation. There are a lot more things you have to defend and watch out for in MMA, and a lot more ways you can lose - which makes things like timing and footwork and positioning all the more important. So while boxing may be more technical, basically I disagree hugely with your point that boxing is 'more strategic' than MMA.
 
lol, i guess we "disagree" although you're completely wrong. But whatever. Timing, footwork, positioning etc are part of all combat sports, its just Boxers basically perfect those aspects of the fight game and are on a whole 'nother level when it comes to those things. If you're a MMA fan you wouldn't be arguing with me that footwork, positioning etc are just as important in mma. The mixed matial artists that best incorporate all those things we're talking about are ones that usually have a background in boxing. And when it comes to punches, most guys still don't even know how to throw proper cross, they just wing overhands. Most boxing coaches will take your gloves from you if you throw a punch like that in the gym.

Yea i remember, i actually have those on tape and DVD. Art Jimmerson, the one gloved washed up boxer ... lol. But you're talking about old washed up boxers stepping into the cage and trying something that they were completely unfamiliar to, just to earn a paycheck(although sometimes it backfired, old ass Mercer stretched out ex UFc HW champ Tim Sylvia with one punch, about 5 seconds into the fight after he sized up timmies first leg kick). Do you remember when those BJJ experts used to just blindly go for a take down and headbutt or stick their chins in the eyes of their opponents, use their Gi's to choke them out and even stomp out the other guys nuts with their fists? Are those the times you were referring to? Also, i hope you do know that the point of the first few UFC's was for the gracies to showcase BJJ. That's practically why Rorion Gracie and Art Davie started the promotion.

Also, there is no such thing as a "more technical" sport .. that doesn't even make any sense, since all sports have their own techniques. That's like saying basketball is more technical than football or some nonsense like that. And if ayhting, MMA fighters try to incorporate boxing into their skillset, so how would boxing be "more technical" than a sport that has more techniques than it? If you're trying to say boxers have far better technique when it comes to punching, footwork, positioning etc .. than yes i agree.

edit: Here's the link of Syliva vs Merecer incase anyone is interested. Pretty funny background story ... Mercer is a former WBO heavyweight champion, and was near 50 years old when Sylvia(former UFC heavyweight champ) agreed to box with him. Big Timmy also considered himself a boxing specialist. The day before the fight the organization screwed Mercer and switched it to kicboxing rules, which was not the deal him and Timmy had made. So during the weigh ins, Timmy and him made a gentlemens agreement before the fight that they would not use leg kicks or go for takedowns, so what does Timmy do? He comes out and throws a leg kick like a little bitch ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb-eOej5Xzc
 
i've played chess at tournament level since i was about 8 years old and even i don't really consider it a sport. i do love it though.

I'LL SMASH YOU IN CHESS! :p

Yeah i love chess ... one of my favorite games of all time. As good as i am, i dont think i'd be able to last with any you tourney guys. I used to beat some of the guys in my HS chess club on a regular basis though. And i was baked as fuck about half the time. I used to trip those mofos out.
 
Happy to disagree, as I don't think either of us are backing down! I do feel like the things you are concentrating on are the more 'technical' aspects of the sport. It may well be correct that boxers are head and shoulders above other disciplines in terms of footwork, positioning, timing or whatever. However, that doesn't mean that boxing is more 'strategic'. Again I will point out that in MMA there is a far wider range of possible outcomes that you need to defend yourself against whilst at the same time trying to attack.

Yes the early UFC events are mostly hilarious, with a parade of overweight and over-the-hill guys, or horrible mismatches. One year I made it a new years resolution to go back and watch all the UFC's from UFC 1 onwards. I made it to about UFC 10 (whichever one saw the debut of Belfort) and then life got in the away and I put it on the back burner! I still plan on going back and carrying on someday...
 
Pride used to be incredible, but when I started getting into the sport UFC had already started picking off the best guys so I think I missed its really great era
 
I'll kill you in darts, Ozz. :p



@ Pagan: Found the one with fat boy getting beat up by the french guy ..



here's another funny one, japanese guy get his balls wrecked ...


Pride used to be incredible, but when I started getting into the sport UFC had already started picking off the best guys so I think I missed its really great era

They have just about every PFC event on dvd. You should check em out. The true spirit of mixed martial arts lived, prospered and died with/in Pride imo. That shit was like the kumite from bloodsport, lol.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=pride+fc+dvd

The strikers in Pride at the time the UFC started to blow up were on a completely different level. It was almost uncompilable honestly. They even challenged the UFC to bring their best fighter to japan ... that's how Dana and Chuck ended up in Japan for his little Pride stint.



favorite KO was 2:08 mark. ICE COLD VOVCHANCHYN! One of the hardest punchers in the history of the sport.



badass highlight ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcgMl4ODEik
 
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I do remember that fat guy losing his teeth, that was from an early one. Maybe even UFC 1? So many of those early fights were either over in seconds or dragged on ridiculously as two out of shape people slugged it out. Also, any time a sumo guy was involved, you know he was going to get massacred.

I will have to check out more Pride stuff. Did you ever watch any of the K1 tournaments? I used to think they were fantastic back in the day.


--edit-- Just ordered the 2003 Pride GP dvd :)
 
Yea that was form the first UFC. Check out the other stuff i just edited into that post. You might enjoy em.

Yeah, i i love k-1. Glory is pretty cool too. But i kind of fell out of the loop last year. I think the last k-1 fight i watched was Petrosyan getting upset by Ristie.

edit: Niice! That's the one with Liddell testing out the Japanese waters. You should order some of the Legacy editions too, best bang for your buck. I think it's like 5 or 6 events in each package. You should also check out all the Final Conflicts and Shockwaves, that's where most of their Grand Prix finals took place.

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... another badass collection that you should keep an eye out for.
 
Cool, looks good TB thanks for the rec

I'll watch this dvd set and no doubt I will end up collecting a whole lot more...

Also kafka - great vid!
 
A friend of mine said that fight bored her to tears. Now idk what's up with that because I don't give a shit about that kind of thing, but it dropped me into one of my obsessive moods where I focus on one thing for like three days. And I can't get the image of her staring at the TV then bursting into years out of my head.

Or like standing in line at the grocery store then sobbing uncontrollably.

And I've been most obsessing over her throwing a bunch of documents in the air at work and screaming 'I'm BORED!' while banging her head against the desk repeatedly and crying like a little bitch.

Psh.... and they say I have problems.
 
This is a random question and you may not be amused by it, but what do you think of the Polgár family?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/László_Polgár

they're completely fascinating. i suspect there's some truth to his hypothesis that nurture vastly outweighs nature in its impact on things like 'talent' and 'genius', although the way he obsessively set out to prove it is pretty nuts. the most interesting thing about it is how happy they seem to be though - i guess having a clear path drawn for you and being equipped with the tools to navigate it must erase a lot of the anxiety that regular folks struggle with (on the flipside it may also prevent them from experiencing anything like the same diverse range of life's flavours - excuse the cheesy turn of phrase). while i'm sure a lot of humanists would decry their upbringing as depriving them of agency, i've never really bought into the idea of 'agency' and i'm not convinced said upbringing is that different to anybody else's in that regard - we're all 'brainwashed' by the conditions into which we're born and raised, it's just that the objective of their brainwashing is narrow and consciously shaped.

funnily enough, i never got chess coaching or really played it at all as a kid except occasionally with my grandad. i found it fun but never really cared about it or studied it. i joined the school chess club and we generally just fucked around playing games, didn't learn a great deal although it was practice i suppose. then i randomly entered a tournament as an 8 year old, won it, ended up on the county team a couple of years later. still didn't care, still never really studied it, my upbringing never prepared me to be a chess player in any specific way. in a more general sense i was extremely gifted with the fundamentals of literacy and numeracy etc so i probably had some 'transferrable skills' that i unknowingly applied? and i suppose it's possible that those transferrable skills were acquired more through nurture than nature? i couldn't possibly say, but it's interesting to think about.

I'LL SMASH YOU IN CHESS! :p

Yeah i love chess ... one of my favorite games of all time. As good as i am, i dont think i'd be able to last with any you tourney guys. I used to beat some of the guys in my HS chess club on a regular basis though. And i was baked as fuck about half the time. I used to trip those mofos out.

haha, i'm not amazing or anything, i'm never in the top section of any of the tournaments i enter although i do win money in the lower sections from time to time. i tend to hover around 1600-1700 ELO, if that means anything to you. i'd be up for a game with anyone on here anytime though, i've actually been using this really shitty iphone app to play random people just recently, if anyone wants a game then i'll give my details.

p.s. i love golf and darts but i suck balls at both of them. i'm still trying to get my first legit 180 or birdie.