I like The Black Halo. Kamelot's not my favorite band ever, but they have some decent stuff. Not everything's going to be death metal...
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I like The Black Halo. Kamelot's not my favorite band ever, but they have some decent stuff. Not everything's going to be death metal...
Zephyrus
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damnromulans
Klingons do not faint
"Serenade" used to be my "play on repeat" bedtime tune.
Wow I had no idea they were this gay looking omg.
I can't wait for knitting/crafts party tonight followed by GAY NIGHT
Wow I had no idea they were this gay looking omg.
I can't wait for knitting/crafts party tonight followed by GAY NIGHT
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
It's that uncertainty that keeps legitimate information out of serious regard. The point of institutions, intellectual, ecclesiastical, political, is at the bottom for the control of information so that it remains authoritative. What the internet has done is release a deluge of information that is erasing these institutional boundaries.
It's now very difficult to take anything seriously, and if there are some powers that be who are running things behind the shadows, they see this phenomenon I described as the best possible thing for them. Divide et impera.
KafkaX
Mr. Self Destruct
Wow I had no idea they were this gay looking omg.
This photo doesnt even have the bassist in it...Fool has long ass thin braids that you see black women wear in the projects...Oh, and the tips are left unbraided to be more of a fucking twat.
Look how painful this is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4SiK0oA2Uo&feature=related
damnromulans
Klingons do not faint
Cronopio
Glorious Imperator
damnromulans
Klingons do not faint
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Jimmy... Dead.
contemplative curmudgeon
@ zabu,vimana & zeph - So essentially were all biased, misinformed and prone to fallacies aka screwed, huh?
I agree that they look kinda gay, but some of their music is decent. They have a new lead singer now who doesn't dress as faggy.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
The veracity of information is only as strong as the faith a society has in the institutions that control information. Yes, we now have the scientific, logical, and mathematical tools to think for ourselves, but reasoning can only go so far when what's needed are the empirical facts. We reason only with the facts presented, and thus we are slaves to who controls the information. If those institutions have no authority, then we have nothing.
Jimmy... Dead.
contemplative curmudgeon
So you think we need these institutions in order to define empirical facts? This based on faith and not reason. Like religion?
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
All deductive logic is ultimately reducible to induction, which breaks down into semantics. Words gain their meaning through consensus, which is an arbitrary interpretation of reality that boxes it into linguistic categories facilitated by projecting a mental grammar onto sensible reality. Institutions work by that same process, and ultimately deals with the meanings of words and assigns those words to pieces of reality as sanctioned by those institutions.
This is what studying classical languages and civilizations has taught me, that the fluidity of concepts is only frozen and enforced by institutions credited enough to propagate that illusion of permanence of concepts. Plato's shadow looms large, and as we are in a phase of history that is a continual repudiation of Plato, so our ability to credit information based on the values it reflects is ever more suspect.
That was a very incoherent rant that reflects the recent breakdown of my own mind. It's a linguistic and moral chaos I live every day.
This is what studying classical languages and civilizations has taught me, that the fluidity of concepts is only frozen and enforced by institutions credited enough to propagate that illusion of permanence of concepts. Plato's shadow looms large, and as we are in a phase of history that is a continual repudiation of Plato, so our ability to credit information based on the values it reflects is ever more suspect.
That was a very incoherent rant that reflects the recent breakdown of my own mind. It's a linguistic and moral chaos I live every day.
Jimmy... Dead.
contemplative curmudgeon
You intrigue and confuse me. Just like Hegel does. This is probability because I'm not smart enough to understand either of you. Or maybe you're both really intelligent yet slightly wacky, idk.
Time for Ein or Dak to come in and break this down in crazy detail so I can get completely lost.
or maybe the obscure Dodens can chime in with a short yet clever, witty remark.
Time for Ein or Dak to come in and break this down in crazy detail so I can get completely lost.
or maybe the obscure Dodens can chime in with a short yet clever, witty remark.
Dak
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I don't think you see the problem/conflict between these diverse statements. Your institutional bias is causing a level of cognitive dissonance.
Vimana
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I think logical fallacy is a more complicated mental behavior that more often leads to incorrect conclusions, and at some point, the high, rampant interchange of information will give way to rationality simply because it's simpler and other things will die.
Lots of religions are dying already in places with high internet use. People have a lot more religious debate now because of the internet and can see opposing opinions through other windows than biased religion classes or misrepresentations from pastors. I don't think it's any coincidence that the new atheist movement is pretty lined-up with the internet age.
Yes, but not screwed, I think.
Lots of religions are dying already in places with high internet use. People have a lot more religious debate now because of the internet and can see opposing opinions through other windows than biased religion classes or misrepresentations from pastors. I don't think it's any coincidence that the new atheist movement is pretty lined-up with the internet age.
Yes, but not screwed, I think.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
I do see the conflict, and that's my point. I have identified the purpose of institutions and then demonstrated that their basis of authority is itself smoke and mirrors, but it's unreasonable to think we can have a world entirely of independent free thinkers yet at the same time be able to have any social/political cohesion without consensus on things that cannot be logically/mathematically "proven." Ultimately, it is reduced to faith, and that faith has to be in an institution's authority to safeguard the integrity of those values.
Dak
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