Onder
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The "What Are You Doing This Moment" Thread
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CiG
Room with a View
Interesting the way you frame things. I have a different view as to who the crybabies are, but there's really no use getting into debates with Americans about censorship because due to their first amendment they've developed a stunted concept of free speech wherein only the state could ever truly censor someone.
I wonder what the next word the "crybabies" will be told they can no longer use because the majority decide to get triggered and report it. Might make a fun game even.
The irony seems to be lost on you that what makes this forum cool is that it is less censorious than other forums, what the fuck will you say once it becomes as censorious as other forums? Should we stay for your mushroom photos or HBB's autistic rants about riffless black metal?
I just find it hilarious that people are coming down so hard on those who have some complaints about having their posts deleted or accounts suspended for saying a word and give a free pass to the crybaby cunts who report other people's posts so often that Deron is forced (falsely imo) to censor people.
Courtesy, manners and politeness involves choice, if I am forced to be courteous it isn't courtesy, basic stuff really. But no it's not the end of the world obviously, it's just a slippery slope because banning words on the basis of a bunch of offended douchebags never stops at that one word or those two words, it expands because now you've legitimized their sense of being offended.
But like Ozz said, this isn't really worth going into it with you, it's pretty clear that the complaints of people like myself who take an unpopular stance on words is meaningless compared to the regulars who complain like little bitches all the time. [shrug]
EspaDa
Damage Case
Funerary_Doom
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Damn. Some members here really need to learn when to take a fucking seat. Create your own message board then with your own rules, if you don’t like the two basic things he has asked you to do. Here we are absolutely way more free than other places and that is undeniable as many can attest being here for over ten years, some in their teens where they spammed the shit out of this board and are still here. It is completely inconsiderate, disrespectful, and downright whiny to sit here an argue with the guy who created a platform for you to just be a perpetual dick on the internet for no reason. Seriously. It’s so out of order and rude. Good riddance @DisconnectedFromReality
CiG
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Edit: nice ninja-edit, your original comment was way more emotional and reactionary.
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Funerary_Doom
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
CiG
Room with a View
But the people getting brutally offended by the words are what, stoic adults? Give me a fucking break.
Master_Yoda77
Juggalo
So many people getting banned. Hey HBB, can you use the N or F word here and join TB and the future DFR?
Krow
Garbage Connoisseur
No one got banned.
Are you staying because you can insult people freely? You havent really been here very long in the scheme of things btw, people did actually get banned in the past for acting like mongs. You came around in the golden age of stupidity when Deron all but abandoned us.
Edit: nice ninja-edit, your original comment was way more emotional and reactionary.
And if you didnt know anything about Cammy, I suppose you might not know why she might at least be mildly offended by people dropping N-bombs around here.
Funerary_Doom
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Why do you always try to make something out of nothing?
I’ve never reported anything to Deron. I don’t get offended easily, and never ran to a mod about anything. I think y’all are looking for an easy way to be rebellious, and it’s not right. Actually I’m pretty sure I’ve never spoken a single word to Deron directly, until now. Honestly, I think he’s being too nice and some of you are taking advantage. You seem to forget it’s not your forum. It’s his. He asked you and explained why he didn’t want x and y. In any game you play there are parameters to follow or else it’s not a game. Siding with a “parenthesis” using textbook nazi who just got here is ridiculous. For those of you who don’t know the (((((())))) signals Jew. He’s wrong and strong and just needs to shut up already.
Geez being nice really doesn’t get you anywhere.
Funerary_Doom
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Edit: nice ninja-edit, your original comment was way more emotional and reactionary.
What ninja edit? I didn’t edit my post.
no country for old wainds
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DFR and oz should both be banned but not for using offensive words. ban the former because he's a tiresome cliché and ban the latter because of his garbage taste in music.
CiG
Room with a View
I'm simply saying it because I think it's nonsensical to point out how free we are compared to other sites while we at the same time (imo) slowly move towards a reduced freedom in the same league as the other sites you're using as a contrast to tell us how lucky we are to be here.
The point being what? Being offended is a good justification to ban the use of words in any context? I'm biracial, there are many racial slurs I could potentially be offended by, so fucking what. Say them to me and I'll simply say something back.
Do I? Perhaps my idea of what nothing is is different to yours. I think this is a definitive something of which I have some thoughts on.
I didn't say you did or are. I pointed out that you're being hypocritical for characterizing people who are criticizing Deron's actions as babies while completely overlooking the babies who were so offended by words that they have reported posts so often as to spur Deron into action.
Yes, the people who mass-report words are taking advantage of Deron being so nice that he won't just tell them to fuck off and stop being offended babies. If he wants to ban my account because I am criticisng him, he can do so because contrary to your retarded view that I don't know or remember that it's his site, I actually do know that. My criticism of him aren't demands, they're just my opinions as a user.
a) he's a self-described Jew so his use of ((())) has a context you're completely ignoring (as in, he's clearly trolling) and b) I'm not fucking siding with a Nazi and that's a really low and pathetic attempt to delegitimize my view on this topic. I'm siding with freedom of speech as a principle, I'm opposing censorship and what I see as a slippery slope in action (what word is next etc) and if that puts me on the side of some dickhead user so be it, but I'm doing it for myself because I don't want to restrict what I can and can't say.
I'm not demanding the right from Deron to have that freedom, I'm merely arguing for it and criticisng everybody else.
Again, what a bunch of sycophants lmao.
Satanstoenail
My Larpstyle determines my Derpstyle
The Ozzman
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Funerary_Doom
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
@CASSETTEISGOD
You do make things way more personal than what it is. I've lurked here for a few years before actually posting and from what I remember, he's been trying to get people to stop saying N for like probably over decade (I didn't lurk that long but from what I remember it's always been an issue). It's not due to recent "trigger" news. Idk, maybe he, himself, doesn't like it that much? There is no freedom of speech on a fucking privately owned message board. He's not trying to be liberal authoritarian either. He gave dickface the benefit of the doubt when he proved to be a huge asshole. And idc who he is, he thinks he's on some high horse and I'm sure him being Jewish doesnt stop him from masturbating to Hitler's Mein Kampf. You can be yourself, and you don't need to be necessarily nice here either. He just doesn't want this for example:
Dickface: HEY GUYS WE CAN SAY F HERE ISN'T THAT SO COOL
Dickface 2: HEY F WHATCHU LISTENIN TO?
Dickface: YOU KNOW MUSIC WITH N HAHAHAHA
These are the kind of people, more than anything, that drive actual conversation away from the boards. And most times they have really bad taste in music too, so it makes it just pointless to even come here for music recommendations too.
You do make things way more personal than what it is. I've lurked here for a few years before actually posting and from what I remember, he's been trying to get people to stop saying N for like probably over decade (I didn't lurk that long but from what I remember it's always been an issue). It's not due to recent "trigger" news. Idk, maybe he, himself, doesn't like it that much? There is no freedom of speech on a fucking privately owned message board. He's not trying to be liberal authoritarian either. He gave dickface the benefit of the doubt when he proved to be a huge asshole. And idc who he is, he thinks he's on some high horse and I'm sure him being Jewish doesnt stop him from masturbating to Hitler's Mein Kampf. You can be yourself, and you don't need to be necessarily nice here either. He just doesn't want this for example:
Dickface: HEY GUYS WE CAN SAY F HERE ISN'T THAT SO COOL
Dickface 2: HEY F WHATCHU LISTENIN TO?
Dickface: YOU KNOW MUSIC WITH N HAHAHAHA
These are the kind of people, more than anything, that drive actual conversation away from the boards. And most times they have really bad taste in music too, so it makes it just pointless to even come here for music recommendations too.
The Ozzman
Melted by feels
I seem to remember Deron indicating that he's lost advertising revenue from people saying the N word and that's probably why he asked for it to stop initially
Funerary_Doom
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Anyways, my steam is gone. I'm too lazy to be picking apart quotes. You don't have to agree with me, but I don't think what I'm saying is far from the truth, unless someone can prove me wrong in a logical way.
Losing revenue or whatever way he phrased it, it wasn't anything new. I don't think Deron is a "SJW" as its called in these parts. From what I read, probably more moderate/conservative. So him saying to chill isn't coming from the place you think it's coming from.
Losing revenue or whatever way he phrased it, it wasn't anything new. I don't think Deron is a "SJW" as its called in these parts. From what I read, probably more moderate/conservative. So him saying to chill isn't coming from the place you think it's coming from.
CiG
Room with a View
I don't take many (if any) things personally, I think what happens is that people take what I say personally because I tend to have no filter and come across as an asshole. Anyways it's irrelevant imo.
Though I wouldn't personally ban that word (interesting that "nigga" isn't banned though from what I can tell) but I didn't make an issue over it because it was already banned when I joined, so why bother. But now that this new word is banned I think it's just revealing a pattern that will potentially expand and it all depends on something as arbitrary as how many people can get butthurt at one time enough to mass-report and spur Deron into action, I think that's fucking ridiculous.
If that were the case, he could have stated that from the start. But instead his justification for the bans have been entirely down to reports. Could be so, but to use that as the justification at this point would be very opportunistic imo.
What do you mean? I'm not trying to pass an American constitutional-style law on his website, I'm arguing for freedom of speech as a principle. I think it would be best to err on the side of a total free use of words and people who get offended by words can use their own speech to debate it or just use the block function.
There is or isn't freedom of speech on a privately owned message board depending on what the owner wants to do. Are you saying I shouldn't at least be allowed to try to sway his opinion on how to run things? Are you really that much of a God damn sycophant dude?
Okay? So some shitty quality conversations can exist, I really don't see how that's a threat to anything or anybody.
Yeah I'm probably left of Deron, again so what? I don't see how any of this is relevant.
If your goal is actually to convince Deron to do things differently, then you should contact him privately instead of posting a bunch of assumptions about his thought process and calling people names. That just seems more rational to me.
