why do black metallers hate modern Black metal?

[Valerie]

why do black metallers hate modern Black metal?

Because people call them metallers.

 

[Alteredmindeath]

Immortal kick fucking ass, legendary band.

 

[Koude Haat]

immortal is working on a new cd. i can't wait.

 

[Belligerent]

^ havent heard anything about new Immortal. Almost completed? Release date??

 

[Vitor]

So aside from the lyrics, and what to call it, how do you all feel about the music on Horde - Hellig Usvart?

great album... i guess the lyrics aren't important on this case, cuz the compositions are awesome...

black metal, white metal... FUCK OFF the lyrics, i just wanna hear good music, and i know both have the same importance on metal, but if i listen good music, why should i ignore any band cuz Satan or Jesus have their names on it?

 

[AchrisK]

great album... i guess the lyrics aren't important on this case, cuz the compositions are awesome...

black metal, white metal... FUCK OFF the lyrics, i just wanna hear good music, and i know both have the same importance on metal, but if i listen good music, why should i ignore any band cuz Satan or Jesus have their names on it?

I agree. It's a killer release!

 

[KevenZ]

I judge black metal like I judge any genre of music. Pure holocaust is fucking atrocious, nonstop mindless blasting, some of the worst production I have ever heard, songwriting that is VERY weak. I can't listen to these super raw BM Bands because it just sounds like utter shit to my ears. I don't mind burzum though...

it's all about atmosphere.... not songwritting.

 

[AchrisK]

it's all about atmosphere.... not songwritting.

I disagree. You can have all the atmosphere you want, but if you're not offering anything to the brain you suck!

 

[KevenZ]

yeah but black metal is not really about skilled musicians...

Death Metal is for that thing.

 

[ohiogrinder]

Call me whatever, but the first black metal (aesthetic) that I heard was Horde. They are totally old school (or whatever you call it) with the shrill vox and whatnot. At first I thought they were horrible. For whatever reason I kept listening, and I am glad I did. One of my favorite things, which is not immedeately apparent, is the subtle infectious melodies that exist, usually buried in the chaotic riffing. I mean seriously there are times when it is so subtle that it seems to feel it more than you hear it. It will usually end up more in the forefront at some point. And you may not even regognize that it was there earlier until you go back and listen again. That is my experience with Horde. I listen to a bit of other black metal but not a lot, so I am no expert. Other than that, if you don't like the tone or the vocals, then you may never like it.

Horde are gay un-Black metal. the members themselves should fry to death under general principle.

and Dave, you just don't like lo-fi stuff. its part of the charm. maybe if you got your head out of your ass you'd realize that.

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

I dunno, I guess I have some mixed feelings about black metal "classics", I like burzum "det som engang var" alot, but immortal "pure holocaust" is utter trash to me.

 

[ohiogrinder]

I dunno, I guess I have some mixed feelings about black metal "classics", I like burzum "det som engang var" alot, but immortal "pure holocaust" is utter trash to me.

Pure Holocaust is a classic. your ears need checked, cause you've been listening to too much polished prog/death stuff.

 

[Koude Haat]

^ havent heard anything about new Immortal. Almost completed? Release date??

abbath stated in an interview that they working on a new album.

I dunno, I guess I have some mixed feelings about black metal "classics", I like burzum "det som engang var" alot, but immortal "pure holocaust" is utter trash to me.

how the fuck can you call pure holocaust trash?

 

[AchrisK]

Horde are gay un-Black metal. the members themselves should fry to death under general principle.

Actually there was only one member, and it is Jayson Sherlock (Mortification, Paramaecium). I undertand your anger. There there. But the music was

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

I am listening to det som engang var again and it kicks ass

 

[Mort Divine]

I disagree. You can have all the atmosphere you want, but if you're not offering anything to the brain you suck!

Music should not appeal to the mind - but rather the "soul." As cliche as that sounds.

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

Music should not appeal to the mind - but rather the "soul." As cliche as that sounds.

that doesn't even make any fucking sense TBQH

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

Hot sauce speaks to my anus.

 

[AchrisK]

Music should not appeal to the mind - but rather the "soul." As cliche as that sounds.

I think it must do both. Plus the path to the soul is through the mind.

If you could recreate the atmosphere of a great song, but only play one simple, boring riff all the way through, with one drum beat that never changes, I think you're going to be bored with it. The atmoshpere will carry you through at first, and maybe for more than one listen, but eventually I feel it won't have much top offer.

Though now that I think about it, I think what I just said is not always the case. I am not into minimalist or drone type stuff, but I guess some people are. And that stuff is more pure atmosphere...but I still say the path to the soul is through the mind. And for me, I seem to typically need something to interest my mind as well as my soul.

 

[AchrisK]

Oh yeah, there is no "soul."

I have often been confused about the use of the words "spirit" and "soul", but I think spirit is the supposed eternal essence of a person, and soul is basically who the person is deep down. Their inner person, and the part of them that feels emotion and whatnot.

SO SHUT IT!!!