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[Internally Deformed]

I thoroughly enjoyed the entire 3 years of my maths degree. Maybe I'm just weird, though. A lot of people on the course at the same time as me did seem to be doing it for the prospects of a good job, rather than for the love of the subject.

You're not the first person I've heard profess a genuine enjoyment of mathematics. I still think you're being disingenuous though .

 

[Internally Deformed]

My friend once put it best when he said that he was interested in pursuing a graduate degree until he realized that he had to actually converse with graduate students.

Sounds like a conceited douche.

Although I have to admit, going to the pub with a bunch of guys whose conversational technique is basically an oral form of Einherjar's posting sounds like my idea of a nightmare.

 

[Phylactery]

Do you think I'd decide to be a maths teacher if I didn't genuinely enjoy the subject? There are a lot of other higher paying career paths I could have chosen you know. Probably less stressful as well.

 

[Master_Yoda77]

Sounds like a conceited douche.

Although I have to admit, going to the pub with a bunch of guys whose conversational technique is basically an oral form of Einherjar's posting sounds like my idea of a nightmare.

Now imagine hanging out with multiple of them every fucking day for the rest of your life.

I also realized that my heart wasn't in it anymore to be competitive in my field. How could I expect to succeed when there were others out there who were far more interested and dedicated to the subject than I was? Sure, I could keep up, but ultimately I knew that I would never be anywhere close to the top student in my class, or even close to a recognized name in my area of research, no matter how niche my dissertation was.

 

[Internally Deformed]

I don't know, couldn't you use maths in those careers too? Teaching does sound stressful though, I doubt I could cope with it.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

Did anyone actually submit a song yet?

 

[Internally Deformed]

Now imagine hanging out with multiple of them every fucking day for the rest of your life.

I also realized that my heart wasn't in it anymore to be competitive in my field. How could I expect to succeed when there were others out there who were far more interested and dedicated to the subject than I was? Sure, I could keep up, but ultimately I knew that I would never be anywhere close to the top student in my class, or even close to a recognized name in my area of research, no matter how niche my dissertation was.

True. I think there's something a little deficient with obsessive personalities - almost like that absorption in one abstract field fills a void missing somewhere else. Still, you don't necessarily need to be the best at something to derive satisfaction from it - even the leaders of the field are probably miserable from comparing the feebleness of their impact to some previous thinker.

Did anyone actually submit a song yet?

Yeah.

 

[Master_Yoda77]

My degree is in English. I do love reading the literature and discussing it in class, but usually only when it's an era that interests me. I cannot take another modern American lit class. I nearly burned my copy of Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close because I fucking hated it so much.

But give me the biggest, longest, fattest fucking epic poem written in a super specific writing style that contains hundreds of characters with no connection between them and I'm fucking ready to plow.

 

[Phylactery]

@Internally Deformed What do you plan on doing with your English degree anyway?

 

[Internally Deformed]

@Internally Deformed What do you plan on doing with your English degree anyway?

Either write the Great English Novel or stack shelves for the rest of my life.

But seriously, no idea. I figure whatever career path I end up on will be the kind of job I have to find to know it actually exists.

 

[Master_Yoda77]

That is exactly how I feel.

 

[arg]

6 songs need moar

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

I also think it's incredibly limiting for the sole purpose of higher education to be preparation for employment. The benefits of humanities educations are less tangible on an individual scale, but I think a populace with a better understanding of its cultural and ideological context is far more likely to move in a positive direction than one in which people are educated primarily by the mass media. Many people highly educated in a specific, practical or science based field - in my experience - are astonishingly uneducated otherwise.

But higher education is for the sole purpose of employment. Otherwise, the education system is completely fucked.

 

[Internally Deformed]

But higher education is for the sole purpose of employment. Otherwise, the education system is completely fucked.

The higher education system has existed much longer than that particular point of view.

 

[CiG]

I don't really understand people that choose interest over market value. Seems like a drawback of most students being young and dumb, or maybe my interest in having money supersedes my interest in any one field.

 

[Internally Deformed]

Why get a degree at all when you can just watch a few Gene Simmons talks on youtube?

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

The higher education system has existed much longer than that particular point of view.

Well I disagree with it. And I know my word is law around here, so it's all well and good.

 

[Internally Deformed]

My point is that if a job specific education was never seen as a necessary precursor to employment in the past, why would it now? I agree that there are too many people with useless degrees, and too few graduate jobs to accommodate them, but that's less a question of what people are studying than how many people are studying. Forensic Science is a good example - leads to an obvious career path, but almost no one who studies it actually becomes one of those CSI guys.

Solution: keep philosophy, humanities, art, etc... but scrap 75% of university places.

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

Disagree. Look at all the peeps back in the day who were apprentices to their chosen profession. The mold for shaping out your career path is there, but the school system nowadays is shit compared to actually practicing what you'll end up doing for the rest of your life. I guess it's tough to apprentice philosophy besides being an assistant teacher, but whatever!

 

[Internally Deformed]

Apprenticeships still exist, it's just that the kind of hands on, artisanal professions that require apprenticeships are fewer and further between now. Most modern jobs are really vague in the skills they require.