HamburgerBoy
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A lot of people gave it a 6 or lower, not just a couple outliers.
If you're really having trouble getting into Alice as a metalhead, you may wanna try the Raise Your Fist And Yell! album. Some really headbanging stuff, and a full on 80s trad metal album. Or Brutal Planet and Dragontown both of which are superlative industrial metal albums.Alice Cooper - Steven
I never got into Alice Cooper at all and this is doing nothing to sway me. 4/10
I was coming at it from the angle of giving them an introduction to his heavier stuff if that's what they preferred. I agree, his 70s stuff with the original Alice Cooper Band is his best, and probably a far better introduction overall. School's Out, and, as you mentioned, Killer in particular are both brilliant albums and the best introduction in general to his work. I was just trying to push his more metallic stuff their way given they had trouble with Steven. Sure, Dragontown isn't the greatest, but I think if you're trying to get into him via his more metallic stuff, it's not half bad. But I recommended Brutal Planet as well for a reason (a much better album if you ask me, and definitely pretty heavy). And while Raise Your Fist And Yell! does have tinges of hair metal, it can still pack some real punch in terms of being metallic, just look at Chop, Chop, Chop or Roses On White Lace.Cooper's later 80s stuff is more hair metal, not a good way to get metal people in (although I agree that it has some really kickass stuff). Dragontown is an even worse intro imo; it's "heavy" in that it has loud production and chuggy riffs, but if it wasn't Alice Cooper fronting it, there'd be no reason for a person actually into metal to listen to it.
imo the classic early 70s stuff is the best entry point, especially an album like Killer which has some relatively heavy/riffy moments but not in a way trying to be metal since obviously metal wasn't a very big thing back then.
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