Non-metal Themed Mixtape Game

[Satanstoenail]

Nirvana - Sliver
Not one of their best tunes, but it still has its charm and it's thematic as fuck 7/10

Nozomi Aoki - Longing (Mother in My Mind - Blue Earth)
This is nice I guess 6/10

The Beach Boys - Surf's Up
I've never really gotten into The Beach Boys but this is nice and not what I expected. 7/10

The Smashing Pumpkins - Disarm
Yep, Corgan is as annoying as I remember. Siamese Dream does have some good stuff on it, but this is the track I would skip every time. It's not that bad, but after hearing it ten million times when it came out I don't need or want to hear it again. 4/10

NoMeansNo - Dad
NoMeansNo rule and although I prefer Wrong, I need to get this album and give it a proper go. 8/10

Birdbrain - Youth of America
This is like, sooooo cool man. 4/10

The Queers - Ursala Finally Has Tits
Pretty punk-by-numbers but not too bad 6/10

Whitney Houston - Greatest Love of All
Damn you arg 3/10

Avatarium - Moonhorse
Eh? This is clearly metal. It's also shit. Must try harder. 1/10

LeadBelly - Cotton Fields
Not my kind of old blues. Too happy. 4/10

The Cure - A Forest
My fave Cure song. Shame it's not on theme. 6/10

Tom Waits - Kentucky Ave
I've heard some Tom Waits I didn't mind, live with a minimal jazz backing band. This isn't doing much for me though, his vocals sound way over the top and out of place. 4/10

Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M.
Classic. So good and on theme as fuck. 10/10

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

Avatarium certainly deserves to be downrated for showing up on this thread, and you'd be remiss to do otherwise, but I don't understand why people think it's okay to dislike that song on its own merits.

 

[Baroque]

Alright it's clear I'm not going to win this so I'll be 'less vague' - I picked Avatarium. It was a bit of an experiment since it contains both metal and nonmetal parts. Yes I do believe it deserves more than 1 point for theme.

The nonmetal parts evoke the innocence and wonder of childhood better the most of the shit in this list. While the metal parts represent the dread and reality of adulthood as a contrast. Since this is the nonmetal thread I thought people could isolate the nonmetal parts and rate just based on those alone, or give bonus points for contrasting metal with nonmetal thematically, but clearly that is too difficult for some.

 

[Baroque]

"The nonmetal parts are perfectly on theme and it's a good song, oh wait here's a metal guitar riff, that invalidates everything. 1 point."

Can you imagine this in the metal thread?

"The metal parts are perfectly on theme and it's a good song, oh wait here's a nonmetal guitar riff, that invalidates everything. 1 point"

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

Shit, I'd have given it a 10 if I knew how butt-hurt you were gonna be about it.

 

[CiG]

@Satanstoenail hell yeah man, Wrong is amazing stuff.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Alright it's clear I'm not going to win this so I'll be 'less vague' - I picked Avatarium. It was a bit of an experiment since it contains both metal and nonmetal parts. Yes I do believe it deserves more than 1 point for theme.

The nonmetal parts evoke the innocence and wonder of childhood better the most of the shit in this list. While the metal parts represent the dread and reality of adulthood as a contrast. Since this is the nonmetal thread I thought people could isolate the nonmetal parts and rate just based on those alone, or give bonus points for contrasting metal with nonmetal thematically, but clearly that is too difficult for some.

For me it was the combo of the song clearly being a metal song and the "non-metal parts" being extremely cheesy and lame that made me give such a low rating. I think Sliver's lyrics evoke the "innocence and wonder" of childhood much more than some namby-pamby questions to Mother about horses on the moon and tigers in the sea.

I think it's fucking bizarre of you to conduct "a bit of an experiment" and then get so crazily butthurt when it falls flat on its face. What the fuck were you expecting? It's not like the non-metal parts in the song play any sort of major role in the song either; it's just some pre-heavy part acoustic verse sections and that's it.

"The nonmetal parts are perfectly on theme and it's a good song, oh wait here's a metal guitar riff, that invalidates everything. 1 point."

Can you imagine this in the metal thread?

"The metal parts are perfectly on theme and it's a good song, oh wait here's a nonmetal guitar riff, that invalidates everything. 1 point"

I can't imagine this in the metal thread because songs aren't split up into "metal parts" and "non-metal parts" ever. Metal songs that have acoustic sections in them are still metal songs and will be judged as such.

 

[CiG]

You can't spell non-metal themed mixtape without "no metal" [badum-tsss].

 

[Baroque]

Metal/nonmetal is not binary.

... I would leave it there but cig will probably bitch. It's not black and white. There are gray areas. You can have a song that is 100% metal throughout or 100% nonmetal throughout sure, but you can also have songs that are 50/50, 60/40, etc. if you classify all mixed songs as 'metal' that's lame and lazy imo.

Point is this song walks close to the line between the two and the game master agreed or it wouldn't have been included. The nonmetal parts are emphasized strongly. Some People would have said it's not metal enough in the other thread.

 

[Baroque]

For me it was the combo of the song clearly being a metal song and the "non-metal parts" being extremely cheesy and lame that made me give such a low rating. I think Sliver's lyrics evoke the "innocence and wonder" of childhood much more than some namby-pamby questions to Mother about horses on the moon and tigers in the sea.

I think it's fucking bizarre of you to conduct "a bit of an experiment" and then get so crazily butthurt when it falls flat on its face. What the fuck were you expecting? It's not like the non-metal parts in the song play any sort of major role in the song either; it's just some pre-heavy part acoustic verse sections and that's it.


I can't imagine this in the metal thread because songs aren't split up into "metal parts" and "non-metal parts" ever. Metal songs that have acoustic sections in them are still metal songs and will be judged as such.

It's called absurd poetry. E E Cummings was a famous poet who wrote in this style, and I've used his poetry in my own nonmetal songs in the past. It's supposed to make you think abstractly about the subject, not just take it literally.

 

[CiG]

Non-metal means no metal, not hard to understand so I really don't get this whole phony outrage.

That song would have been fine in the metal theme, stop acting like a martyr all the time and just play the fucking game pal.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Metal/nonmetal is not binary.

... I would leave it there but cig will probably bitch. It's not black and white. There are gray areas. You can have a song that is 100% metal throughout or 100% nonmetal throughout sure, but you can also have songs that are 50/50, 60/40, etc. if you classify all mixed songs as 'metal' that's lame and lazy imo.

Point is this song walks close to the line between the two and the game master agreed or it wouldn't have been included. The nonmetal parts are emphasized strongly. Some People would have said it's not metal enough in the other thread.

This all just reads like you're reaching super hard because you fucked up and put a metal song in the non-metal game. It's been long established that the game master will usually include everyone's submissions and it's up to whoever is rating to downrate as applicable.

Should I call Fade to Black a "mixed" song? Pfft.

It's called absurd poetry. E E Cummings was a famous poet who wrote in this style, and I've used his poetry in my own nonmetal songs in the past. It's supposed to make you think abstractly about the subject, not just take it literally.

Great. Does that mean I'm not allowed to find it super lame?

Maybe because it's old folk, not old blues.

Old folk is definitely the kind of old blues I don't like.

 

[arg]

1. Nirvana - Silver - 4
fuck grunge and fuck nirvana tbh

2. Nozomi Aoki - Longing (Mother in My Mind - Blue Earth) - 8
pretty

3. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up - 7
silly hippie music

4. The Smashing Pumpkins - Disarm - 8
nice

5. NoMeansNo - Dad - 5
punk annoys me

6. Birdbrain - Youth of America - 3
pop rock is worse

7. The Queers - Ursala Finally Has Tits - 3
pls stop

8. Whitney Houston - Greatest Love of All - 9
what a voice

9. Avatarium - Moonhorse - 3
metal or non-metal this blows

10. LeadBelly - Cotton Fields - 1
get back to them

11. The Cure - A Forest - 7
nice but where are the kids?

12. Tom Waits - Kentucky Ave - 5
this fucking guy again lol

13. Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M. - 6
word

 

[CiG]

10. LeadBelly - Cotton Fields - 1
get back to them

 

[Mort Divine]

will get to rating this today after work i think

 

[Mort Divine]

1. Nirvana - Silver

7/10

2. Nozomi Aoki - Longing (Mother in My Mind - Blue Earth)

8/10

3. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up

6/10

4. The Smashing Pumpkins - Disarm

I wish Billy Corgan wasn't such a fucking asshole because TSP made some really great music

8/10

5. NoMeansNo - Dad

8/10

6. Birdbrain - Youth of America

5/10

7. The Queers - Ursala Finally Has Tits

Joe Queer is another gigantic asshole and The Queers aren't nearly as good as TSP, but this is a fun song

7/10

8. Whitney Houston - Greatest Love of All

What a fucking voice

8/10

9. Avatarium - Moonhorse

Don't know if I can accurately rate this, because I really am digging it, but being a predominantly metal song it doesn't belong here

5/10 (few points higher if this were a metal game)

10. LeadBelly - Cotton Fields

7/10

11. The Cure - A Forest

8/10

Might not be the clearest song about childhood, but god its a good song

...

I can't hear it without hearing this mashup though



12. Tom Waits - Kentucky Ave

Never found myself caring about Waits much

6/10

13. Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M.

10/10 easily

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Nirvana – Silver

Don’t know this song, don’t like it. Shitty chorus. 3/10.

Nozomi Aoki - Longing (Mother in My Mind - Blue Earth)

Was hoping it would go somewhere else, but it was pleasant. Kind of tuned out tbh. 6/10.

The Beach Boys - Surf's Up

I’ve never really listened to the Beach Boys, and definitely nothing from this album afaik. Just something I dragged my feet on. That’s changing though, this was amazing. My first thought for this round was to go with a Jellyfish song which would have come up pretty pale next to this. 10/10.

The Smashing Pumpkins – Disarm

Love this album, one of my childhood favorites (even though I mostly knew it just through the various singles than the album itself), but this song was always a little up and down for me. Incredibly melodramatic and sappy, but these days, fuck it, I still think it works. 8/10.

NoMeansNo – Dad

Not one of my favorites on the album (was probably my least favorite at first), much simpler than most of their stuff and lacking the spazz factor I love about them, but when I read the meaning behind the song it made it all click. 8/10.

Birdbrain - Youth of America

I feel like I’m supposed to know this song but I’m not getting quite a nostalgic response from anything more than the type of music this is. But I guess I never actually saw the original Scream come to think of it, I was in kindergarten and every other kid trick-or-treating had a Scream mask but my parents wouldn’t let me watch it. Still enjoyed it a lot anyways. 7/10.

The Queers - Ursala Finally Has Tits

Lmao @ all the women named Ursula leaving comments on the video. I don’t think would have much lasting power with me, but I’m enjoying this right now. 7/10.

Whitney Houston - Greatest Love of All

Fuck anyone giving this a low score. I’d ask how anyone can claim to enjoy metal and not appreciate this voice, considering a long history of powerful clean metal singers and canonization of many classic ballad tracks but then I’d remember that half of you listen to bullshit post-80s metal anyways. 8/10.

Avatarium – Moonhorse

I read a little bit of the argument of the metalness of this song prior to listening to the playlist, but I forgot who Avatarium were. I thought they were another Ayreon-like deal. One second in and I’m already all “Candlemass wut?”. Anyways, good but feels a bit overlong, structure is kind of boring. Not not metal. 2/10.

LeadBelly - Cotton Fields

Liked it. 6/10.

The Cure - A Forest

Not big on the Cure, but I like this, a bit punchier than their later stuff. Minus a little for not being thematic enough. 3/10.

Tom Waits - Kentucky Ave

I never quite got the Muppets description applied to this guy until now. Made me laugh, tried reading the lyrics alongside, still laughing. 5/10.

Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M.

Enjoyed it a lot. 7/10.

Overall one of my favorite playlists and themes probably.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

Whitney Houston - Greatest Love of All

Fuck anyone giving this a low score. I’d ask how anyone can claim to enjoy metal and not appreciate this voice, considering a long history of powerful clean metal singers and canonization of many classic ballad tracks but then I’d remember that half of you listen to bullshit post-80s metal anyways. 8/10.

It doesn't matter how good her voice is when the song uses rather insipid major key melodies. I don't see how liking clean metal singers who sing predominantly minor key tunes means I should like this song.

This is not to say that songs in a major key are automatically shitty. You need only look at the song I submitted for the BURDEN theme or the positive score I gave to Roy Orbison - In Dreams to see that I don't think that way. But the way major chords and melodies are used over 90% of the time conveys a very blandly upbeat aesthetic.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

That song you submitted still sounds bleak. Flamboyant homosexual power metal is still better than gothshit or atmoshit.

(The second sentence of my comment was directed at no wainds' comment for the song btw.)

 

[Satanstoenail]

I can get down with some of Whitney's poppy stuff and her voice is undeniable, but her megaballads make me want to go on a murderous rampage.